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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year 1988

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you are listening to fate to black with

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welcome

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fade to black

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bespoke radio

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for

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yeah man

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today's tuesday october 5th

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2021

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277 days into the new year only 88 days

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yeah man

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we'll see if that video just recorded

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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but it is beautiful it is it truly is

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to block for kjcr of the

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game changer network and kgra

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for another week

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the planet

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i'm your host jimmy church

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guys

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tonight very special guest

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drew banke is here

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tonight it's a full night of plant

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medicines

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yeah man

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that's a perfect night here on the show

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tomorrow night grant cameron is back

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on our very special 1500th

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show that is tomorrow night fifteen

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hundred shows i'm not even i think that

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number is low uh by about ten

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um uh many years ago i was doing some

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calculations and somehow we got messed

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whatever that part doesn't matter

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only macro how did we get here well

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we'll talk about all that tomorrow night

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tomorrow night is show number 1500 and i

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500 shows been a couple of years okay

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night with open lines all night long now

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you saw right there at the top of the

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uh i was wearing these these are the

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wayfarer stories and if you look there's

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a camera here there's a camera here

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turning white and green and it turns

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blue and some other stuff you can adjust

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there's a touch pad it's crazy

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very cool so anyway i shot a video of

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conference ufos all the above and beyond

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at uh the aquarius hotel and casino love

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laughlin it's going to be great

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and uh jacques valet is going to be

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there paul heineck is going to be there

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grant cameron's going to be there grant

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cameron's going to be with us tomorrow

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night colin andrews

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is going to be there jaime moussan

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is going to be their 10 other amazing

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it's going to be great i want you to get

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tickets and info right now head over to

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starworksusa.com i cannot wait

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oh man i was talking to uh just chatting

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that sounds fabulous no she says that

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sounds kind of fabulous i said because

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it is kind of fabulous

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meeting all of you

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out there okay so head over to

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stacy just posted 50 seconds ago

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starworksusa.com is where you can see

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the full lineup

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get your group rate on the room at the

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aquarius casino and your ticket for the

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saturday night gala dinner wow

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wow look at that stacy's quick thank you

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for that stacy and uh that will get

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a retweet thank you for that stacey

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that's that's really cool

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that is uh stacy with an i by the way

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everybody so i'm going to retweet this

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really quick it just says thank you

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stacy so you can see it and just click

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on it head over

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and uh get your tickets and info it's

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going to be a great conference let's get

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straight to the breaking news

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nasa

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is targeting a late november launch now

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check this out known as the double

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asteroid redirection test otherwise

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known as dart

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the u.s space agency will send the dart

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spacecraft to a pair of asteroids that

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did most binary at 1 20 a.m eastern time

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from vandenberg space force base

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in california did i just say that right

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vandenberg

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space force base in california not that

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at 1 20 a.m eastern so what time is that

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that is you got to back up two three

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hours is that 10 10 20

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10 20 p.m that's right after the show

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which means i wrap the bunker

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and head straight out uh depends on what

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day november 24th is dart will smash in

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one of the two asteroids known as diddy

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2022. in doing so it will change the

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man what was that movie with um

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it'll come back to me

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all right i haven't had enough coffee

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yet i've got two coffee mugs full of

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this one is full

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this one is on reserve

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for drew banky

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and that'll be at the bottom of the hour

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but this one

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and i love renee

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renee sends me the best stuff like this

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next

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news release check this out following a

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torrential summer downpour in northern

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arizona hundreds of bizarre

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emerged from tiny eggs and began

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triops i've never even heard of a triop

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that's right lauren crater lead

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interpretation ranger at the whooptake

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uh monument uh said that their eggs can

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lay dormant for decades in the desert

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until enough rainfall falls to create

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lakes that provide real estate and

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the time for the hatchlings to mature

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and lay eggs for the next generation

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get these pictures up at these triops

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they're insane

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all right next up a 96 year old ex-nazi

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secretary who went on the run 96 years

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old 96 years old escaped dashed out of

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she had to have a driver she was

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she went on the run to avoid a court

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hearing before being arrested

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pending trial she's accused of

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complicity in the murder of some 11

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today her name erm guard ferchner

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who had worked as a secretary at the

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stutthof death camp between june 1943

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and april 1945 was released from custody

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96 years old there you go there's a

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isn't that crazy

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thank you for that kaz you guys are good

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that is what i said all right let's get

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the show cracking happy birthday to

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today one of my favorites

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today is 45.

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now

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i thought she was great in revolutionary

290
00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:33,360
road name another kate winslet film

291
00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:35,759
right okay let me tell you why kate

292
00:15:40,389 --> 00:15:38,320
winslet is on this list

293
00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:40,399
movie 43

294
00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:46,480
need to peep it out

295
00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:51,279
and the scene the clip with kate winslet

296
00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:53,680
gets her on my happy birthday list right

297
00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:56,480
there acd front man the one and only

298
00:16:03,670 --> 00:15:59,279
brian johnson today

299
00:16:06,389 --> 00:16:03,680
73 years old steve miller is 78

300
00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:06,399
and a lot of great hits with steve but i

301
00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:08,399
keep going back to just

302
00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:11,600
fly like an eagle the album the entire

303
00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:16,710
when i was a kid

304
00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:18,399
i'm gonna tell another kid story coming

305
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:21,120
up but when i was a kid

306
00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:24,399
um i bought fly like an eagle

307
00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:25,199
and

308
00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:26,880
i was probably 14.

309
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:29,680
and i brought that thing home and

310
00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:32,000
dropped the needle

311
00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:33,600
and i cannot believe how perfect that

312
00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:36,160
album is and uh to this day it's it's

313
00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:38,160
one of my favorites so happy birthday

314
00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:40,320
steve miller our dead guy's birthday

315
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:43,199
today is brian connolly

316
00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:46,800
1945 to 1997 died at the age of 51.

317
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:49,440
brian was the founder

318
00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:51,120
and lead singer

319
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of the suite

320
00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,399
from 1968 to 1979 he's saying on all of

321
00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:58,800
their hits including little willy

322
00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:00,560
the ballroom blitz

323
00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:02,399
fox on the run

324
00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:05,120
and love is like oxygen

325
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:07,280
as time progressed issues between brian

326
00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:08,959
and the band would find them excluding

327
00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:11,439
him from decisions and he developed a

328
00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:14,000
significant problem with alcoholism in

329
00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:15,760
the mid 70s

330
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:18,160
after leaving the suite

331
00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:20,799
his health decline although he continued

332
00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:22,480
touring with his own band but then in

333
00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:25,439
1981 he was admitted to a hospital with

334
00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:28,079
bloating and he sustained multiple heart

335
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:31,679
attacks and paralysis on his left side

336
00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:34,320
which would later develop into a severe

337
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:36,880
nervous uh system condition

338
00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:39,600
in january 1997

339
00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:41,600
he had another heart attack went back

340
00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:43,360
into the hospital

341
00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:46,160
and died two weeks later on february 10

342
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:50,480
1997 due to kidney failure liver failure

343
00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:53,280
and repeated heart attacks

344
00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:56,799
he was just 51 years old on this day in

345
00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:59,200
history 1947

346
00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:00,480
big day

347
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:03,360
harry truman delivers the first ever

348
00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:06,080
presidential speech on tv

349
00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:08,720
just three months after a flying saucer

350
00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:12,840
crashed in roswell new mexico

351
00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:15,280
coincidence yeah

352
00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:17,039
fader fact

353
00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:18,960
all right

354
00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:19,840
uh

355
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,000
i looked this up

356
00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:24,480
i vetted this

357
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:26,799
so check this out

358
00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:28,400
i swear to god

359
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:29,679
fader facts are

360
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:31,840
it's the best part of the show

361
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:35,520
and uh drew bank is coming up

362
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:37,440
at the bottom of the hour

363
00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:39,600
and that's going to be amazing

364
00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:44,000
but drew's got to top this fader fact

365
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,320
an english convict

366
00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:48,880
named william buckley

367
00:18:53,110 --> 00:18:51,520
was transported to a penal colony in

368
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:53,120
australia

369
00:18:57,990 --> 00:18:54,720
he escaped

370
00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:58,000
and was found by aboriginal tribes

371
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,200
who believed he was the returning spirit

372
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:03,520
of a tribesmen

373
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:05,280
so they took him in

374
00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:08,240
and he continued living with them

375
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,310
i'm not making i'm not making it up this

376
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,799
guy this guy ended up he was like

377
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:20,640
negotiating with the australian

378
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:23,360
government he's part of the aboriginal

379
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,000
tribe he's part of their government

380
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:28,240
and uh

381
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:30,400
i mean and it was all about peace and

382
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:31,679
love

383
00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:35,120
and that's uh it it's just a crazy story

384
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,919
but it's a fader fact william bucky

385
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:39,520
buckley look him up

386
00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:42,080
look him up tonight very special guest

387
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:44,799
drew banky is here for a night of plant

388
00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:47,760
medicines and e.t tomorrow night

389
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:49,760
our 1500th

390
00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:51,760
show

391
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,760
grant cameron and we will be talking

392
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:55,440
about his new book

393
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:57,360
and uh

394
00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:00,320
uh co-authored with nicole sakic that's

395
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:01,280
right

396
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:02,320
we're going to be talking about that

397
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:03,360
tomorrow night and a bunch of other

398
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,240
stuff

399
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,039
and uh there you go uh thursday nights

400
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:09,360
another fader night with open lines all

401
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:10,880
night long now i need to hit this river

402
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:12,720
moon coffee

403
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,470
ah

404
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:25,909
i'm gonna have a bunch of guests over

405
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:28,000
it's my birthday this weekend

406
00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,280
and uh

407
00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:31,120
one of the things i've got something in

408
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:33,600
my eye i don't know what it is

409
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,559
i'm stocked up on river moon coffee i

410
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:38,480
can't wait to that moment right we're

411
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:39,840
going to have dinner

412
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:41,200
we're going to have drinks we're going

413
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:43,600
to have dessert we're going to night

414
00:20:47,909 --> 00:20:46,080
vision

415
00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:47,919
telescopes and binoculars and night

416
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:50,000
vision and things and sky watching it's

417
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,200
going to be great it's going to be

418
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:53,679
eclectic having a slumber party

419
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,320
sleepover it's going to be awesome but

420
00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:58,720
there will be a point in the night

421
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:01,200
when i stand at the head of the table

422
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:02,559
and i go

423
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:04,080
river moon coffee

424
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:09,679
coffee everybody raises their hand

425
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:12,880
and i get to go and grind those beans

426
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:14,000
people are gonna come in and they're

427
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,520
gonna make sure they're to look and

428
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:17,120
they're going to make sure that it's a

429
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:18,320
bag

430
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:20,400
of river moon coffee that i'm not just

431
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,880
like you know and i'll have to open the

432
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:24,720
bag in front of them and i'm going to do

433
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,390
all right

434
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:42,830
uh uh where am i where am i oh oh okay

435
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:44,630
mario

436
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,440
zamparelli

437
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:49,200
write that down

438
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,960
mario

439
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:52,640
zamparelli that's with the z

440
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,909
mario

441
00:22:02,230 --> 00:21:59,600
zamparelli

442
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,070
came into my life in 1984. mario

443
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:08,240
look him up but i'll give you the brief

444
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:10,640
history i'll just say it like this mario

445
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:17,029
was howard hughes

446
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:18,640
personal

447
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:20,080
artist

448
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:21,360
okay

449
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:24,559
now amongst other things uh he designed

450
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:27,200
everything for howard hughes

451
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:31,280
his plates his silverware his cups

452
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:32,720
his things

453
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:36,720
uh hughes air west he painted the planes

454
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:39,600
he designed those designed the interiors

455
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:41,919
of the offices and

456
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:44,320
and painted the self-portrait the only

457
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:46,640
one done of howard hughes self-portrait

458
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:48,880
the portrait i should say of howard's

459
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:51,840
that's all mario zamperelli look him up

460
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,679
and uh so he comes into my life

461
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,360
1984

462
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,440
and i'll make this very brief i was

463
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:01,440
working at an art studio in pasadena and

464
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:03,120
the owner of the art studio gary comes

465
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,679
in and says okay we got a very important

466
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:07,520
client coming in today his name is mario

467
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:10,559
zamparelli tells me who mario is okay

468
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,440
cool

469
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:14,320
um all right so in comes mario little

470
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,720
italian guy exactly what you would think

471
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:17,679
you know

472
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,000
hair slickback

473
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:22,960
ray-ban wayfarers right i'm not kidding

474
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,280
about that part actually and he comes in

475
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,600
suit you know and um

476
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,919
and we meet and and i ended up meeting

477
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,000
that day i met his daughter andrea and

478
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:34,799
we talked about some things and he gets

479
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,440
my phone number um

480
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:38,720
and uh

481
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:42,240
later on that night i go home after work

482
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:49,029
and it's his daughter andrea and she

483
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:50,720
says jimmy

484
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:52,000
my dad

485
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,720
would like to invite you over to the

486
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:56,640
house

487
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:58,799
for pizza

488
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,520
i said huh okay when

489
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:03,360
tonight

490
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,559
really

491
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,760
yes

492
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:07,200
all right

493
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,480
i'm there

494
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,880
so i get the address get the directions

495
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:12,480
and um

496
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,720
and i take off

497
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,720
and uh so this is the deal

498
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:19,520
mario's house

499
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:20,320
is

500
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:23,279
was in san marino uh just south of

501
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:25,520
pasadena and if you've ever seen the

502
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,640
movie the godfather the scene uh with

503
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,400
the horse head

504
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:32,880
in the bed uh you know the holly the guy

505
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,200
that ran the the studio right in

506
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:37,279
hollywood that big mansion

507
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:39,919
that house

508
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,549
that that's san marino so anyway i don't

509
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:48,960
know this at the time so i drive down

510
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:50,080
and and

511
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:51,840
and the houses are getting bigger and

512
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,240
i'm like what is going on here

513
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,960
and i pull up to mario's house i go up

514
00:25:03,909 --> 00:24:58,960
knock on the door and andre answers and

515
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,230
some things

516
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,799
just stick with you

517
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:10,720
forever

518
00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:14,159
this was 1984 here we are 2021 and i am

519
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:19,039
telling you this story so stay with me

520
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,640
i go in and the first thing that i

521
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,880
noticed about the house it's nice and

522
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:24,240
it's big

523
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,520
um

524
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:27,760
but it's white

525
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:29,600
it's white

526
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,559
the floors were wood

527
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,000
it's nice

528
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:35,919
but everything is white

529
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,320
white white white white white walls

530
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:40,559
white this white white white

531
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:43,120
clean

532
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,360
and it just stuck with me

533
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,919
we round the corner and we go into his

534
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:51,600
living room

535
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:54,720
and which is big

536
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:03,029
and two chairs

537
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:05,909
and the chairs are facing each other

538
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,919
and there was a little table in the

539
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:08,799
middle

540
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:11,600
and these two chairs uh

541
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:14,880
tan leather chairs uh design you know

542
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:18,000
real italian thing but but anyway square

543
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,600
modern chairs and they're facing each

544
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,840
other like wow

545
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,200
okay

546
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:25,039
you know no no no

547
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:26,240
you know you know i'm not stuffed full

548
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,600
of furniture not things all over the

549
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,600
place no that's it there's this white

550
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:31,520
living room

551
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,200
like six or eight huge floor-to-ceiling

552
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:37,279
uh windows all the way across the back

553
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,960
looking over this hill

554
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:39,919
and then

555
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,880
you know a great view two chairs that's

556
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,400
it

557
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,400
and uh

558
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:49,120
i was like okay

559
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:50,480
and uh

560
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,360
the pizza comes and mario and i sat down

561
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:54,960
in these chairs and we're facing each

562
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:57,679
other and we just talk for the evening

563
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:58,640
but

564
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,279
it was the two chairs

565
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:04,000
and the cleanliness of the house

566
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,360
spotless white right okay

567
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,080
so about two or three months later after

568
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,520
this

569
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:13,760
i've been over to the house many times

570
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,559
and

571
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,320
same vibe every time you walk in it's

572
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:18,159
like a museum you know just clean

573
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:19,919
artwork and things but nothing just

574
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:22,559
clean spotless white

575
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,520
and i tell andrea that i need a drawing

576
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,880
board and i was going to go buy a

577
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,559
drawing board she said no i've got one

578
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,080
in the garage

579
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:31,840
um just come on down and pick it up i

580
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:33,200
had a pickup truck so i drive down to

581
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,000
the house and i knock on the door and

582
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,559
mario answered and he says hey

583
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:40,240
andrea says you need a drawing board i

584
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,919
said i do and he goes what else do you

585
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:43,520
need i said well you know you know

586
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:45,120
artist stuff

587
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,480
and he goes

588
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:48,480
anything in the garage

589
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,720
is yours just go out there

590
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,720
fill up your truck i said really he goes

591
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:54,320
yeah okay

592
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:56,880
and this is when i found out

593
00:28:03,909 --> 00:27:59,919
mario's secret

594
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:06,549
after those two chairs

595
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:08,960
so we walked through and uh

596
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,600
and uh i'm with andrea mario goes back

597
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,520
to his art studio walk through the house

598
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:15,360
zigzag around come around open up this

599
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:17,440
door and we go into the garage she turns

600
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,720
on the light

601
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:21,279
three-car garage

602
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:22,799
packed

603
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,039
floor to ceiling

604
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:27,360
with stuff

605
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:28,840
i was like

606
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,640
what and then it hit me

607
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:34,640
that's why the house

608
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:41,750
everything goes in the garage

609
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,960
and it was so funny because for months

610
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:47,039
i'm going over and i was so impressed

611
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:48,640
with the house

612
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,679
i mean i was just like man minimalist

613
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,120
works for me

614
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:54,960
i want to live like this one day the two

615
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,039
chairs in the living room by themselves

616
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:59,440
i'm gonna do that one day i'm 58 i'm

617
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,159
still gonna do it but

618
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:04,320
the secret

619
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,679
was everything goes in the garage

620
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:09,600
it's like

621
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:14,000
board i got all kinds of stuff from

622
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,919
there man i got uh pens and pencils and

623
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:17,760
things and then i enjoyed t-squares of

624
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:19,120
this that

625
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,640
a wastebasket uh stuff ink pens uh

626
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:24,880
bottles of ink things a couple of books

627
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:27,760
drawing books drawing paper think tape

628
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,200
i loaded up my car took everything home

629
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,000
and uh and that was great

630
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:36,159
but here's the deal

631
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:40,080
if you ever get to come over to my home

632
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,600
walk through

633
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:43,120
yeah

634
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:43,770
and then

635
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:44,960
[Music]

636
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:48,080
i'm gonna show you my garage

637
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:49,760
some things

638
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:52,080
stick with you forever

639
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:53,840
this is fade to block i am your host

640
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:57,440
jimmy church tonight on this program

641
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:00,880
drew banke is here this is a full night

642
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:04,640
of plant medicine and e.t tomorrow night

643
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:07,520
our 1500th show

644
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,840
grant cameron is back

645
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,279
we're going to be talking about his new

646
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book and everything else that is going

647
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,520
on in the world of ufology

648
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and then thursday nights another fader

649
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night with open lines all night long i'm

650
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,240
your host jimmy church

651
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this is fade to black on the game

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changer network you can follow me right

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[Music]

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so

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723
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724
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:44,880
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727
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728
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729
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:57,919
today is to stockpile emergency food

730
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,880
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731
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,679
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736
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:16,560
preparedness plan you should too

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740
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doesn't it especially now so go to

741
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742
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,839
that's

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744
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:36,320
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745
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,629
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746
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:47,030
fade to black

747
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:48,399
is not

748
00:34:54,109 --> 00:34:51,040
your father's radio show

749
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:54,119
on the game changer radio network and

750
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,320
kgra the planet

751
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:00,320
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

752
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:07,470
what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

753
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:11,110
matthews radio

754
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:27,750
all right welcome back paid to black how

755
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,079
many houston church tonight

756
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,400
drew banke is with us for the first time

757
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:34,720
tomorrow night our 1500th show with

758
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:37,119
grant cameron

759
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,800
thursday night is another fader night

760
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:40,560
with open lines all night long but

761
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,800
tonight it's all about drew

762
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,240
that's right he's with us for the first

763
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:46,400
time we're going to discuss the sink the

764
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:48,880
sacred plant medicines their use and its

765
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,960
unveiling of a possible parallel world

766
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:52,320
and contact

767
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,839
with extraterrestrial civilizations

768
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,480
drew is not only in iraqi freedom war

769
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,560
veteran and medicine man but holds such

770
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,400
native american distinctions as

771
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,440
sundancer and sacred pipe carrier also

772
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:07,040
carrying the south american name of

773
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:10,640
aguila cosmica he is widely considered a

774
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:13,839
master of plant medicine specially with

775
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,200
i don't even huachuma san pedro

776
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,160
ayahuasca and changa drew is the

777
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,079
co-founder of sacred journeys within a

778
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,640
non-profit plant medicine church author

779
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,480
of the internationally distributed books

780
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:29,359
i'm perfect and so are you and find your

781
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:32,480
inner guru his experience with near

782
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,599
death and d e several e.t contacts being

783
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,599
a caretaker of the crystalline star

784
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:39,760
altar and participations in ancient

785
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,920
sacred ceremonies has fostered a

786
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:43,680
relationship with off-planet

787
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,320
intelligence which in turn has led to a

788
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:48,320
responsibility as a messenger of

789
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:51,280
humanity's evolutionary shift drew

790
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:54,079
currently resides in blanca colorado and

791
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,599
i would like to welcome for the first

792
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:57,680
time to fade to black drew banky drew

793
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,839
welcome man how are you

794
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:01,839
how's it going jimmy thanks for having

795
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:05,440
me on no thank you uh this is great but

796
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:07,440
but drew you get the first time guest

797
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:08,800
disclaimer

798
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:11,280
last week doesn't count

799
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:13,280
all right so the first time gets a

800
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,920
disclaimer drew which is uh you and i

801
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,200
sitting on my couch having a

802
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,200
conversation as friends and where that

803
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,200
conversation starts and starts and where

804
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,800
it ends it ends but we're gonna end his

805
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,440
friends there you go you ready

806
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,200
roger that who's who's sober friends

807
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:29,200
though jimmy what's that yeah i know

808
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:30,240
right

809
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:35,280
with you no it's clearly uh a definition

810
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:38,960
that always needs to be defined uh no i

811
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:41,440
i appreciate that and i i love it

812
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,000
because some of my um views might not

813
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,480
mesh with other people and i just want

814
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:48,320
to put a disclaimer out to from the

815
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:50,000
beginning these are just my views that

816
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:51,920
i'm sharing so oh

817
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,359
my my my views uh rub everybody the

818
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,839
wrong way four nights a week

819
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,839
so

820
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:01,920
welcome to the club welcome to the club

821
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:02,880
okay

822
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,280
um uh

823
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,839
where do we you know this is this is the

824
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:08,880
thing

825
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,760
um this is gonna be a a very cool

826
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,599
conversation tonight

827
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:15,040
and

828
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,640
the the entire ayahuasca thing

829
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:20,640
um for me

830
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:23,359
i had heard about it a little bit but i

831
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:25,200
started to learn so much because of the

832
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,200
show and talking to others

833
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:29,440
um you know it was probably five or six

834
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:32,240
years ago the the knowledge started to

835
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,320
come in about this and i had

836
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,560
uh quite a few conversations uh with

837
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:38,560
graham hancock about it

838
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:41,440
and uh

839
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:44,880
one day this is this is what happened

840
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:48,480
i introduced uh i was introducing grant

841
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:53,589
oh man

842
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:54,720
graham

843
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,119
standing behind me and as you can

844
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:01,920
imagine right it's a it's it's packed

845
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,359
and uh and i started to

846
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:07,440
uh talk about

847
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,640
uh footprints of the gods and and his

848
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:12,960
you know his stuff and he comes up and

849
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,680
taps i'm introducing him and he taps me

850
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:18,640
on the shoulder and whispers in my ear

851
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,870
and i said today grant's talking about i

852
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,400
was like wow okay

853
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:30,480
he didn't want to

854
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:33,520
it was so important to him

855
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,079
that you know yes his past and his

856
00:39:42,670 --> 00:39:38,240
research it's all there

857
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,680
but it it he didn't want that to be

858
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:44,400
confusing

859
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:46,960
the issues of what he was there to talk

860
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,800
about right then

861
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,280
and and he comes out so i sit down and i

862
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,359
introduce him and this is what happened

863
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,280
uh drew

864
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,200
he comes right out

865
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,880
grabs the microphone you know thank you

866
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:00,480
jimmy and and i sit down i'm in the

867
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:01,760
front row

868
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:05,200
and i look up and he says

869
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:06,800
everybody

870
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:09,520
on planet earth

871
00:40:14,589 --> 00:40:11,200
needs to

872
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,599
do an ayahuasca ceremony

873
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:16,480
everybody

874
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:19,440
and that's how we started this off

875
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,560
and and i was i was mesmerized and and

876
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:24,880
so i continued

877
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,520
to oh and then he said um i might have

878
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:29,119
been on the show

879
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,560
but then he said um at the time this was

880
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,400
uh years ago

881
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:37,200
he had told me that he had done 75

882
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:39,280
ceremonies

883
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:40,720
75

884
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:46,480
you know what i mean

885
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:48,960
oh yeah and so when you hear something

886
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:52,240
like that coming from graham i don't

887
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:53,839
know what that number is up to now if

888
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:56,880
it's 100 or 150 or if it's 80. i don't

889
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,200
know what that number is then it was 75.

890
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:01,359
when you hear that

891
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:07,520
is is 75 too much or does that matter

892
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:10,079
those numbers uh the those amount of

893
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:11,440
ceremonies there's there's certain

894
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:13,040
people that that's right for and there's

895
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:14,720
certain people that one ceremony is

896
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,760
right for and there's certain people

897
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:17,760
that no ceremonies are right for

898
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,359
it's all individual and um

899
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:22,960
you know it's specific there's so many

900
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:25,119
variables involved uh you could get

901
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,480
every i've seen

902
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:28,240
we've had people just do one ceremony

903
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:29,680
and they and they never go back to the

904
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:32,000
medicine right and right and we have

905
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:34,640
some people that have that are on

906
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:36,800
you know their own shamanic journey that

907
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:39,119
are it's on that are in their process of

908
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:41,599
doing their own shamanic work so

909
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,560
in that case there's a lot of medicine

910
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,079
just and there's a lot of time spent in

911
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:48,480
the spirit world it's

912
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,000
you got to understand the spirit world

913
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:52,480
and that energetic realm for people

914
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,400
that's been there a lot that's very real

915
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:56,960
but it takes a while to get used to and

916
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:59,440
to be able to navigate it and um you

917
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,760
know graham is he's a shaman in his own

918
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:03,680
right in his own

919
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,359
you know in his own realm and his own

920
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,160
vibration he is a shaman and

921
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,240
that some would describe him as that as

922
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:12,880
many others are as well now uh

923
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,400
his number at the time was 75 um can i

924
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,200
ask you how many ceremonies uh

925
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:21,200
you you have done

926
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:24,560
i lost count a long time ago

927
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,440
in i'm in triple digits i know i lost i

928
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:31,680
lost count well into the triple digits

929
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,480
so i have no idea okay it's uh but at

930
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:36,640
this point it's not um

931
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,000
it's not even about ingesting the

932
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,920
medicine anymore it's uh when i do

933
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,920
ceremony i barely drink any medicine at

934
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,119
all it's more

935
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,520
just um it's it's a constant connection

936
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:47,839
now right right right right i totally

937
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,680
respect that um but also what comes with

938
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:53,359
that is

939
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:56,720
uh experience and knowledge right and

940
00:43:02,710 --> 00:42:59,440
and acquiring that knowledge

941
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,720
um that's pretty impressive okay so

942
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:04,079
and that would make i think that

943
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:10,550
i don't know about that i know

944
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,280
i know i know enough to do good work for

945
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,119
other people and help them find find

946
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:18,160
their own light so can you tell

947
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:20,800
um before we move on if you meet

948
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:23,200
somebody for the first time can you can

949
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,839
you tell if they have done a ceremony is

950
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,599
there something that changes in in

951
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,400
somebody's vibration

952
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,200
um just maybe their outlook you know one

953
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:35,200
of the one of the very first messages

954
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,280
you get in these sacred ceremonies is

955
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:39,119
everything is in divine timing at all

956
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:42,160
times and if you can come back into this

957
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,520
world and really

958
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:45,520
echo that message

959
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,400
you can

960
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,160
operate in a really different way you

961
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,400
know in the oneness aspect of christ

962
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:52,160
consciousness or buddha consciousness

963
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,520
whatever you want to call it right

964
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:56,000
that's that's that's really uh

965
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,480
shown very early on in the ceremony so

966
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:00,560
you can kind of tell like how people's

967
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,359
talking and you know what bothers them

968
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,680
also the beginning when you first start

969
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,400
going you're actually digging into

970
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:10,079
you know traumas that are inside you

971
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,160
whether it be from this lifetime or

972
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:14,480
other lifetimes or whatnot

973
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,119
they are embedded in your energetic self

974
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,800
so you're digging away at that so

975
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,800
sometimes you might see people just

976
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:22,160
going through ceremonies through the

977
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:23,839
integration process

978
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,680
and it might not look

979
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:27,359
um

980
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:29,920
all all daisies in the beginning because

981
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:31,680
you're digging out you're digging out

982
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,480
memories and and things like that to to

983
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,480
further yourself to further your own

984
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:38,800
consciousness now let's talk about uh

985
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,319
the history of ayahuasca if we can

986
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,880
um truly ancient

987
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:45,680
um

988
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,920
this is what fascinates me

989
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:54,000
it's it's so old

990
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,280
but the knowledge of the combination of

991
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,839
a couple of plants

992
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:01,680
can alter

993
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,680
your digestive system and allow for this

994
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:07,920
process to happen

995
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:10,480
that to me i mean modern chemistry would

996
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:12,240
have a hard time pulling this together

997
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,040
right

998
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,440
but this for sure yeah yeah um what's

999
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,040
the history how

1000
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,200
how long um

1001
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,280
how old is it

1002
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,760
so different accounts um

1003
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:26,160
one one account i go with is 8 000 years

1004
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,359
old

1005
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,040
and it's a combination between two

1006
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,680
plants one is the ayahuasca vine which

1007
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,079
which is mysterious cappy vine and that

1008
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,880
holds the mlui inhibitor which interacts

1009
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:38,240
with your body and allows the

1010
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:41,839
dimetrotripoline that's contained in the

1011
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,839
chakruna which is the other half of the

1012
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,800
brew which

1013
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,680
the mao allows the body

1014
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:51,040
to

1015
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:52,800
take on that dmt like you were just

1016
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,680
touching on in the beginning of this

1017
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,760
but ultimately it's a vibrationary

1018
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:00,720
medicine that allows you to commune with

1019
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,520
a consciousness and the consciousness is

1020
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:05,440
ultimately the divine feminine of the

1021
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:06,880
entire universe

1022
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,359
so the universe is split up in between

1023
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:11,520
masculine feminine light and dark

1024
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,880
whatever you want to call it especially

1025
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,040
in this 3-d

1026
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,040
reality that we're in right now

1027
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:19,839
ayahuasca represents all

1028
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:22,240
anything feminine the the earth the

1029
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:23,760
earth has a feminine

1030
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:24,720
spirit

1031
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,119
ayahuasca represents all these different

1032
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:31,599
all these different facets of and

1033
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:32,560
the

1034
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:38,960
universe

1035
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,880
uh and which are completely different uh

1036
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:44,160
i don't know if we're going to get into

1037
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,520
that tonight or half the time but a

1038
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,319
completely different class

1039
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,480
for a lot of different reasons but

1040
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:53,680
8 000 years ago

1041
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:56,400
how how was that possible

1042
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,390
was it knowledge from the stars i mean

1043
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,640
was this a recipe that

1044
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,319
that was given

1045
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:08,560
to i mean we're talking about stone age

1046
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:12,160
man here right and and to have that kind

1047
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,119
of

1048
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,160
uh advanced chemistry

1049
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,440
um at that point in human history is is

1050
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,599
just sounds impossible

1051
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:23,359
how did that happen

1052
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:26,559
there's there's two origin stories um

1053
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,040
one one involves star people and the

1054
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:30,800
other one i'll share the first one and

1055
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,240
then i'll get into the star person

1056
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,280
origin stories second the first one

1057
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:37,440
back in the time of

1058
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,280
there was only one tribe on this earth

1059
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,160
and there was only one shaman

1060
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:44,880
on this earth and he had a wife

1061
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:48,559
and um he was getting up in age up into

1062
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:51,839
his mid 100s he's about 150 years old

1063
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:54,559
and he was the only knowledge keeper

1064
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,960
sacred knowledge keeper on this planet

1065
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,240
one tribe

1066
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,720
so the some of the elders started coming

1067
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:02,000
to him and said you know you're getting

1068
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,200
up in age you're probably going to be

1069
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,520
passing soon you know what shall we do

1070
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:07,280
he's like don't worry he's like when i

1071
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:08,559
pass

1072
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,520
um

1073
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:11,040
bury me beside

1074
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,440
come out of my body and and and climb up

1075
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,440
this climb up this tree

1076
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,680
and when my wife passes bury her beside

1077
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:21,839
me and a bush will come out of it which

1078
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:23,200
would which is the

1079
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:26,160
the first he represents the the divine

1080
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,640
and his wife represents the the chicona

1081
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,520
bush

1082
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,280
said uh bury my wife there and the

1083
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:33,200
chickuna bush will come up and if you

1084
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,839
combine the masculine and the feminine

1085
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,119
uh together

1086
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:39,520
you can tap into all knowledge that i

1087
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,400
carry

1088
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:43,040
for from here moving forward

1089
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,000
so that's one origin story and that's

1090
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:48,480
that's a particular like to uh the

1091
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,960
shipibo tribe in peru and some other

1092
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,040
tribes in south america

1093
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,520
now the other one is just straight star

1094
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,599
people both plants were sent down from

1095
00:49:02,870 --> 00:48:59,359
star people to

1096
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:02,880
allow humanity to reconnect to

1097
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:05,599
their true nature at a certain time in

1098
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:07,760
humanity and they would step forward

1099
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:09,520
these plants would step forward and

1100
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,880
initiate the transformation of humanity

1101
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:14,880
well the evolution of humanity

1102
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,800
so that's that's the second that's the

1103
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,559
second one it's um

1104
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,400
and that's that's pretty that's kind of

1105
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,079
the story between a lot of these sacred

1106
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:24,640
plants there's there's usually a star

1107
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:26,800
there's usually an origin story that

1108
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,720
that involves star people

1109
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,640
now uh

1110
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,720
what is ultimately

1111
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:34,640
the process i you know because i hear

1112
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:37,200
different words and and different ways

1113
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:41,119
to describe this you know as a brew

1114
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,000
um

1115
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,000
so how does it get to the brew state

1116
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,839
what happens

1117
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:48,480
well the medicine's collected um usually

1118
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,319
it's a around 70 to 30 ratio

1119
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:54,640
and that's um

1120
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,839
usually heavier on the vine than the

1121
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:58,400
chikuna

1122
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:01,839
some some ratios are 60 to 40 and

1123
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:04,960
this gets put into a pot and water added

1124
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,839
uh

1125
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,760
brung to a boil and

1126
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:10,079
sung over and prayed over for four days

1127
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,200
and

1128
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,040
that's the brewing that's a ceremony in

1129
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:15,520
itself the brewing process and it's

1130
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,240
there's alchemy involved um

1131
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:20,480
you know you're the person cooking the

1132
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:22,079
medicine is loading the medicine with

1133
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:23,839
alchemy through its songs

1134
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,240
and these songs get replayed in ceremony

1135
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,680
so it's kind of like

1136
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,839
it's kind of like waking it back up when

1137
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,599
it goes in the ceremony the same songs

1138
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:33,359
that are get sung while it's being

1139
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,800
brewed some of the same songs get sung

1140
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:36,000
in ceremony

1141
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:37,280
so there's there's a lot of alchemy

1142
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:41,200
involved in it as well but um yeah it's

1143
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,040
it's constantly looked over and prayed

1144
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:45,680
over for four days so four days it's

1145
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:48,559
seeping and boiling right yeah okay

1146
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:51,280
until until it gets to really a dark tea

1147
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,319
and what does it taste like

1148
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,400
uh

1149
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:58,160
it's really a nasty taste jimmy it's

1150
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:00,800
kind of like a earthy

1151
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,920
earthy um dirt kind of taste kind of

1152
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,240
nutty uh some people really like it

1153
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,400
kind of like molasses

1154
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:10,880
mixed with dirt in a way okay you

1155
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:12,400
laughed uh

1156
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,240
as as you said that

1157
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:16,559
so you're not on the uh you're not on

1158
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,119
the affectionate side of the taste

1159
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,040
uh i'm on the affectionate side of them

1160
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,200
but i just leave it at that okay i'm on

1161
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,040
the i i appreciate the medicine for all

1162
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:27,599
it is right right right right

1163
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:30,000
but you know what's coming i will i will

1164
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:31,040
say this

1165
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:34,160
the only time that ayahuasca truly

1166
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,160
tastes good is the very first time you

1167
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:38,079
taste it after that

1168
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:40,720
your body reacts before you

1169
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:45,910
this is good to know

1170
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:47,839
this is important information

1171
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,839
um and now the ceremony and and i like

1172
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,119
that uh

1173
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,359
uh the alchemy behind it

1174
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,240
this isn't uh which we discussed last

1175
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:00,640
week this isn't sport this isn't

1176
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:04,400
recreational uh there is something very

1177
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,280
very sacred about the ceremony and and

1178
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:09,520
going through the process and and you

1179
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,750
it's i mean it's you get so much more

1180
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:17,520
out of it and we we've had people that

1181
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:19,599
have come to our ceremonies and they've

1182
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:20,480
set

1183
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,760
you know there's there's there's other

1184
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,280
retreat centers in the united states

1185
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,680
that are running and been operating uh

1186
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,200
longer than we have

1187
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:30,240
and they come to our ceremonies and

1188
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:31,599
they really

1189
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:34,240
find find another layer of what it's

1190
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,839
going into and

1191
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:37,760
i really truly

1192
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,760
i don't fully understand it to a hundred

1193
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:41,760
percent but there's there's songs that

1194
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:44,160
are particular to these medicines that

1195
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,640
open up doorways that

1196
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,200
you have to be given these songs in a

1197
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,839
certain way for them to work correctly

1198
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:53,680
you know and you have to sing them in a

1199
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:55,440
certain way the tone that you sing them

1200
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,480
and

1201
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:58,559
just uh it's really

1202
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:01,119
it's more about the heart but it's uh

1203
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,960
your intention behind it and really open

1204
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,880
up that space and really really

1205
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,400
communing with

1206
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,680
you know

1207
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:10,079
beings from another uh dimensional space

1208
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,160
really or another vibrational space

1209
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,319
whatever you want to call it but there's

1210
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,319
it's real and there's there's a few

1211
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,160
places that are in these

1212
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:20,960
ceremonies that are described the same

1213
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:23,599
way by multiple people right and it's

1214
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:25,839
very it's very interesting that there's

1215
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:27,920
there's these places that do exist and

1216
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:30,400
they don't there's they don't dictate no

1217
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:31,599
matter who's looking at them they're

1218
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,559
still the same place right and we

1219
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:36,079
they're not even in this dimensional

1220
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,359
field they're in other dimensional

1221
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,599
fields like way like

1222
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,280
really past our understanding at this

1223
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:43,599
point in humanity you know it's hard to

1224
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:46,079
hard to wrap your head around a lot of

1225
00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:48,160
it now but the medicine has a way to

1226
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:50,079
show you to make it make it make sense

1227
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,280
to you

1228
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:53,440
i feel a sneeze coming on so if it

1229
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,109
just like that

1230
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:03,589
see i hit the mute button the audience

1231
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:06,559
didn't hear it but you did right

1232
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:09,200
that was a real sneeze

1233
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,190
there is

1234
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:19,359
i believe although i haven't gone

1235
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:21,200
through the ceremony

1236
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:22,559
i believe

1237
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:23,359
that

1238
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,720
this is truly an access

1239
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:29,280
to another dimension

1240
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,760
and or another world

1241
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:34,319
is this something that

1242
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:36,799
the hard sciences and i say hard

1243
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:39,440
sciences uh to measure right

1244
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:40,240
to

1245
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:43,599
uh

1246
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,480
to start to confirm some of their

1247
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,000
considerations

1248
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,160
of extra dimensions and parallel worlds

1249
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:52,720
and the multiverse is

1250
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,599
is this something that the hard sciences

1251
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,839
should look into and study for these

1252
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,440
reasons

1253
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,440
absolutely but they're not going they're

1254
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,680
not going to grasp it until they let go

1255
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,760
of the linear timeline

1256
00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:08,000
if they if they can understand that time

1257
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:14,470
very fluid and constantly expanding

1258
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:15,680
that's what they have that's what they

1259
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,680
have to understand first before they can

1260
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,599
understand this at all

1261
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:21,599
because there's

1262
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,000
i mean it's constantly unfolding be from

1263
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:25,839
each one of our thoughts the universe is

1264
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:28,400
unfolding like really like and this is

1265
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,119
getting way deep into the way deep into

1266
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:33,119
the conversation jumping way ahead but

1267
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,280
we're manifesting this reality like in

1268
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:39,359
both on an individual level and a

1269
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,680
collective level and this has been known

1270
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:43,280
for a very long time

1271
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,720
but

1272
00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:46,319
they need they need to understand this

1273
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,839
they need to understand that the earth

1274
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,280
is a living being

1275
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:51,040
there's there's certain things that need

1276
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,480
to happen for

1277
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,319
this to make sense

1278
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,839
when if

1279
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,680
and the way we've been taught and

1280
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:59,280
programmed for the past couple hundred

1281
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,160
years

1282
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,000
it's it takes a while to break away from

1283
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,920
that but once you do it's

1284
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,000
it's all very clear

1285
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:08,720
um is it a situation

1286
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:11,920
that because you mentioned this earlier

1287
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,040
um and i think that this is the case um

1288
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:17,760
is this something that is repeatable

1289
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:20,079
you know for science you've got to be

1290
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:20,960
able to

1291
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:23,839
you know reproduce the experiment and

1292
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:26,640
repeat it right and confirm it

1293
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:29,760
is this a situation that is repeatable

1294
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,880
for science for study

1295
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:34,640
absolutely it's it's just about it's

1296
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:37,359
just about raising your vibration and

1297
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:38,319
um

1298
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,640
you know it's it's been done before uh

1299
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:42,640
daryl angkov bashar you know he hooked

1300
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,480
him hooks himself up

1301
00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:46,160
and and showing

1302
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:47,599
you know

1303
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:49,040
i could do ayahuasca and you could do

1304
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:50,559
the same thing and you could you could

1305
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,720
see the same readings it's it's it's

1306
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:55,440
about it's about raising your vibration

1307
00:57:03,829 --> 00:56:56,640
and

1308
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,839
that's that's really where the point uh

1309
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:05,680
where people talk about like going out

1310
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:07,040
of body or

1311
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,960
having like uh these mystical

1312
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,640
experiences where they really uh

1313
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,240
disassociate from their body for some

1314
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:14,400
moments in the ayahuasca ceremony

1315
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,160
they're raising past the vibration

1316
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,559
really where their bodies can contain it

1317
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:19,760
now and

1318
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:22,079
if you take we've got two minutes before

1319
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:23,280
the break

1320
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:24,640
and

1321
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,680
you know in a scientific setting

1322
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:29,680
where you would have

1323
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:30,640
uh

1324
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:33,200
multiple people getting ready to do the

1325
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:34,480
ceremony

1326
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:37,119
that know nothing about ayahuasca right

1327
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,799
the experience right the first time and

1328
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:42,799
they don't know each other

1329
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:45,839
but they come off of uh

1330
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:48,240
uh their journey

1331
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:50,079
and then they all

1332
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:51,440
talk about

1333
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:54,880
locations and things that they've seen

1334
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,319
and then

1335
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,880
the researchers can step back and say

1336
00:58:01,750 --> 00:58:00,319
wait a minute here

1337
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,760
they all

1338
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:03,520
saw the same thing

1339
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:05,680
right they're working i think maps is

1340
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:08,400
working on this already right there

1341
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,119
maps is working on trying to

1342
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,359
build some type of

1343
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:15,440
make some type of sense of the energetic

1344
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,240
field or spiritual field it's it's it's

1345
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:20,000
known that it's there right you know

1346
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,520
just just like these craft it's it's

1347
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:23,520
it's been known for years they're there

1348
00:58:26,549 --> 00:58:24,880
like we need to move on the next

1349
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:26,559
question like what are they what you

1350
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:27,440
know

1351
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,799
and they're really

1352
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,040
you know i think grier has a 100 right i

1353
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,960
agree with them a hundred percent on a

1354
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:34,480
lot of things not everything but a lot

1355
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:36,559
of things they are our future selves

1356
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:39,440
like i totally and you know leading into

1357
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:41,280
the next next set

1358
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:43,280
that's uh you know this

1359
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:47,520
this is a contact modality like and um

1360
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:48,400
for

1361
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:51,920
that's ourselves

1362
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:54,400
that's a fascinating part of all of this

1363
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:57,040
and uh when we come back

1364
00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:58,799
um uh

1365
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,640
well we're going to be talking about e.t

1366
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,400
and and other things for the rest of the

1367
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,799
night but when we come back i want to

1368
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:06,240
ask you

1369
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:09,280
about your first ceremony

1370
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:12,400
okay so i want you yeah okay i want you

1371
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:14,559
i want you to stop and think about that

1372
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,040
for a second think about your answer

1373
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:19,280
yeah yeah think about your answer uh

1374
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:20,960
before we come back after this break

1375
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:22,720
this is fade to black i am your host

1376
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:25,760
jimmy church tonight drew banke is here

1377
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,319
now what's great is drew you know knows

1378
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:30,000
about fade to black and things last week

1379
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:32,480
he called into the show on fader night

1380
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:33,520
and says

1381
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:36,480
hey jimmy it's it's it's me drew banky

1382
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:39,040
and we had a conversation and i knew at

1383
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:40,480
that point

1384
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:43,200
we needed to have a show so we're doing

1385
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:44,640
that tonight drew banky is here on

1386
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:46,799
murals jimmy church this is fade to

1387
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:48,960
black and the game changer now follow me

1388
00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:51,599
right now on twitter at j church radio

1389
00:59:56,090 --> 00:59:53,640
i'll be right back

1390
00:59:56,770 --> 00:59:56,100
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01:00:04,710 --> 00:59:56,780
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here plant medicines and e.t

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right before the break

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um i asked drew i said okay

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your first ceremony

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and uh

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set us up for this was it was it

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stateside or was this uh in south

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america

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stateside orlando at uh soul quest

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actually um there there's a church there

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they've been going since uh 2015

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uh is really um just first getting

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started when we got there

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um they're still going and they're

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they're doing about you know 60 to 80

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01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,640
people every weekend for ceremony there

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um

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there's been over 15 000 people that's

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been through the doors of that church

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01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:04,000
and a lot of those people have done more

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01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:06,880
than one ceremony so i mean it's uh

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01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,280
yeah they're they're creating waves you

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01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:11,280
know and that's uh that's a beautiful

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place it's written by chris young and uh

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01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:16,799
anthony chettas to cook there and uh

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01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:18,319
interesting story real quick about

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01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:20,880
anthony um me and anthony drank medicine

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01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,119
for the first time he got uh he got a

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message kind of like i did that it was

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supposed to

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move forward with this medicine he went

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down to peru spent some time down there

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uh trained for like six months to become

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a cook and now he's the cook for soul

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quest so he's been the cook for soul

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quest for a couple years

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and um

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really amazing guy really big heart

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space so shout out to him okay yeah

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right on uh

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what

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i gotta know

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so

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uh you do all of the traditional things

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uh

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was it brewed for four days for instance

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right did you go through

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uh the traditional ceremony

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um the the brewing is is normally done

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by the medicine or a cook it's a there's

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lots of times that the medicine is not

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even brewed by the person running

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ceremony there's there's specific uh

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jobs and and a cook is you is lots of

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times he's just a cook he that's all he

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does is cook the medicine so that's

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usually not

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um

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it doesn't involve people in the

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ceremony okay okay all right well it

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says it's done beforehand sure sure sure

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okay so uh take me through it

1560
01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:36,559
so leading up the reason i went to

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first off the reason i went to ayahuasca

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i did two tours in iraq

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in 2005 i was in baghdad 2007 i was in

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ramadi iraq

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um

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really heavy combat especially my second

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deployment come back with ptsd went

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through a divorce over there

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um

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just a lot of depression and suicidal

1571
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:57,839
tendencies and that that plagued me for

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years

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01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,520
2014 i had a full-on suicide attempt

1574
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,160
woke up in the hospital um

1575
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not expecting to wake up in a hospital

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01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:07,920
and

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started going to the va through their

1578
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programs and

1579
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,319
short i was on five different

1580
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:18,640
medications i had to wean off of a

1581
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:20,319
couple months before my first ceremony

1582
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,920
of ayahuasca

1583
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:22,880
and

1584
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,759
it the va just was not helping me so i

1585
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:26,880
knew

1586
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:29,279
uh ayahuasca come into my life i can't

1587
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,359
remember how it was conversation and

1588
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:32,960
they they call it the seed you know

1589
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,880
someone someone threw a seed in my lap

1590
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,400
of ayahuasca and started to grow and

1591
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,560
eventually a couple months later after i

1592
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:40,560
started looking into it i kept i started

1593
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:42,000
reading all this stuff about how it

1594
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,759
worked for veterans

1595
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:45,120
and um

1596
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,600
looked into going down to peru or south

1597
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:49,679
america and didn't have the thousands of

1598
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:51,600
dollars to spend on that and kind of put

1599
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,679
on the back burner

1600
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:55,440
my wife which was my girlfriend at the

1601
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:57,520
time she started to

1602
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,120
look in the background without me

1603
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:01,199
knowing just knowing that there she had

1604
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:02,640
to do something to really save me

1605
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:04,400
because she could see something you know

1606
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:06,960
was going to happen if uh something

1607
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:09,759
wasn't fixed and um she ended up finding

1608
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:12,719
soul quest in orlando and um she came up

1609
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,400
to me and said we were booked in two

1610
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:16,480
weeks for a ceremony or a month or

1611
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:18,159
something like that we had to start our

1612
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:19,759
diet right away we had to stop eating

1613
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:21,359
meat we had to stop drinking coffee we

1614
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:22,799
had to

1615
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:24,640
do all this stuff and i like

1616
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,159
i wasn't prepared uh mentally for the

1617
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:30,480
for that part of it i didn't know really

1618
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:32,799
that was a part of it but i dove into it

1619
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,040
and went to the first ceremony

1620
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:37,279
um on a friday night wait wait wait wait

1621
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:40,400
dude you stop drinking coffee

1622
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:42,640
yeah i know oh that's that's a deal

1623
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:44,799
breaker right there that's

1624
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,040
i'm back on it jimmy i'm back on oh i

1625
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:49,440
see i got a cup right now okay okay

1626
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:52,000
that's a deal breaker okay so cafe

1627
01:09:57,669 --> 01:09:54,640
bustillo by the way that's my that's my

1628
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,679
that's my go-to yeah yeah i i i uh

1629
01:10:04,070 --> 01:09:59,840
that was my go-to for a while

1630
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,630
you head down to florida

1631
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:08,080
yeah i was actually living in florida at

1632
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,480
the time okay so i actually headed up to

1633
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:12,719
we're living in fort myers area

1634
01:10:18,070 --> 01:10:15,199
um and we went up to orlando for the

1635
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:18,080
weekend booked two ceremonies

1636
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:21,199
back to back the first ceremony i drank

1637
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:22,880
the medicine i drank the first cup i

1638
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:25,679
went back and drank the second cup

1639
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:26,719
and

1640
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:29,920
literally it was all it was hell jimmy i

1641
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,560
mean it was it's if if i would have

1642
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:34,480
stopped there i would be describing this

1643
01:10:39,189 --> 01:10:37,199
right now as a bad trip and my last

1644
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:39,199
encounter with ayahuasca i used the

1645
01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:40,480
restroom

1646
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,719
like 15 times and it was

1647
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,159
that's not an exaggeration i'm not

1648
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:46,320
trying to be too graphic but

1649
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,480
i didn't throw up it was just back and

1650
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:50,880
forth to the bathroom and people around

1651
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:52,800
me i heard people around me have it like

1652
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,800
you could just hear like

1653
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:56,239
noises that come out people around me

1654
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:58,640
just having these amazing experiences

1655
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,440
man

1656
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:01,600
and i'm just going through hell you know

1657
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:04,480
and this medici one of the facilitators

1658
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:07,440
they come up to me and there's like

1659
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:10,400
ayahuasca is sealing up the bullet holes

1660
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,679
in your soul and it's it's suturing up

1661
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:15,280
the bullet there's bullet holes all

1662
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:17,040
through your soul

1663
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:18,480
and i was like okay

1664
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:21,199
and i just go just go with it and

1665
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:25,600
it was just hell the next day um

1666
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:27,760
woke up out of this you know in the

1667
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,640
morning about nine ten o'clock um

1668
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,400
i asked my wife her experience she had a

1669
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:34,080
similar experience and i'm like you know

1670
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:36,239
let's just go they can keep the money i

1671
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:37,920
don't want to refund let's just go home

1672
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:40,000
i'm not staying for the second ceremony

1673
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:41,120
like

1674
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:43,040
you know this is

1675
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:46,000
a bunch of bs and um

1676
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,840
i she she ended up talking me in the

1677
01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:49,920
stands she's like look we already paid

1678
01:11:53,830 --> 01:11:51,840
let's just stay and

1679
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:53,840
you know give it a chance talk to a

1680
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,239
couple of the people help the people are

1681
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,640
helping there and they're like look you

1682
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,560
had a you had a hard experience last

1683
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:02,400
night and she was cleaning you out

1684
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:04,719
tonight she's probably gonna get it's

1685
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:06,960
probably gonna be the opposite

1686
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:09,440
and uh so i stayed and uh me and my wife

1687
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:11,199
both stayed and we we drank medicine

1688
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,719
that that night and 20 minutes into that

1689
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:15,840
i

1690
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:19,840
open and

1691
01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:21,840
i saw what i thought was a train was

1692
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:23,440
coming across the yard like coming

1693
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,640
straight at me

1694
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,560
and or a car i thought i really thought

1695
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,199
a car was like i had come around and was

1696
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:31,440
driving through this field at us

1697
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:32,719
right at me

1698
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:34,080
and um

1699
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:35,840
i couldn't do it i couldn't move really

1700
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:37,760
and this light just overtook me and when

1701
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:40,320
it overtook me it started showing me

1702
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:44,560
um like a rolodex of just other what i

1703
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:46,080
what i perceived at that time as other

1704
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:47,920
lives now i understand this other

1705
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:50,480
dimensional fields myself is

1706
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,400
operating in at the same time

1707
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:54,159
but at that time you know my perception

1708
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:56,400
was past life so it just kept a thousand

1709
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,360
just

1710
01:13:01,590 --> 01:12:59,600
clicking past me i could stop i could

1711
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:01,600
pull the picture in i could go into it

1712
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,679
and go more into

1713
01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:06,000
that aspect of myself

1714
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:08,080
and then put that back and it would go

1715
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:09,760
and then at the end i met the spirit of

1716
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:11,120
ayahuasca

1717
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,960
and the spirit of cannabis i've always

1718
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:14,800
been i've always been connected to the

1719
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:18,000
spirit of cannabis since about 16 so uh

1720
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:18,800
i

1721
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:23,360
just to

1722
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:28,239
a consciousness uh that goes with these

1723
01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:29,520
plants

1724
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:31,040
okay okay that was kind of into the

1725
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,480
lesson

1726
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:34,640
no it's not i know that's just the

1727
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:36,880
beginning but um

1728
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:39,040
let's stop right there for a second

1729
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:40,320
um

1730
01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:41,840
did you

1731
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:44,840
know about

1732
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:46,800
her

1733
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:50,800
did you know this going in

1734
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:53,040
i had

1735
01:14:02,870 --> 01:13:59,199
be perfectly clear jimmy and honest

1736
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:02,880
i had no idea how spiritual it was

1737
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:05,760
like i i really what it was jimmy i was

1738
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:08,320
at the end of my road and i knew that i

1739
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:09,679
had something had to change my

1740
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,679
trajectory i knew that deep down in

1741
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:13,360
myself

1742
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:15,280
and

1743
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,280
i i heard about the spiritual aspect but

1744
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:19,679
i had no idea how

1745
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:20,960
how

1746
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:25,920
and i really got

1747
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,520
really got my eyes opened up that second

1748
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:29,760
ceremony and it was

1749
01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:32,400
really truly amazing um i i knew there

1750
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:33,920
was a spiritual aspect to it i knew

1751
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:36,000
about i heard about mother ayahuasca but

1752
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:37,280
i didn't

1753
01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:40,719
who she was like right

1754
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:42,880
how i do now really and and this is this

1755
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:45,600
is what i find so fascinating is

1756
01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:48,640
is that terminology her

1757
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:49,679
mother

1758
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,560
she

1759
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:51,840
right

1760
01:14:55,709 --> 01:14:54,719
this this divine feminine aspect to it

1761
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:55,719
that

1762
01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:00,000
everybody refers to her as

1763
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:02,080
right and and and

1764
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,440
i get i get kind of emotional like

1765
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,800
talking about her because she saved my

1766
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:06,800
life man like she really did

1767
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,920
yeah

1768
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:09,199
and really

1769
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:10,400
and tell me about

1770
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:12,239
about that presence

1771
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:16,560
um and the divine feminine aspect of it

1772
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:17,920
um

1773
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:20,239
how did you know

1774
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:22,000
who she was

1775
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:30,709
well i there was a a a vision like um

1776
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:33,280
like a vision i could see but the over

1777
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:35,440
really the the thing that really showed

1778
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:37,600
me that she was

1779
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,120
she was that uh

1780
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:41,600
divine feminine was

1781
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:44,080
the feeling that come over me it was it

1782
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:45,760
was if you go back and think about that

1783
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:47,760
quintessential grandmother figure or

1784
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:49,360
quintessential mother figure in your

1785
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,880
life the one that was always cooking

1786
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:54,640
not the one that was smoking cigarettes

1787
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:56,719
and you know blowing smoke in your face

1788
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:59,040
i'm talking about the grandma like

1789
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,560
everybody had it might not have been

1790
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:02,320
grandma but it might have been an aunt

1791
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:04,400
right that feeling that

1792
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:06,000
if you go back to a kid that come over

1793
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:07,840
you when you saw like for me it was my

1794
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:10,159
grandma so that that fee that same

1795
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:12,640
feeling come over me when i saw this

1796
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:13,920
this

1797
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:14,640
uh

1798
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:17,440
consciousness and this visual bit this

1799
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:18,960
vision this

1800
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:21,679
um you know in the spirit world it

1801
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:24,800
wasn't a vision i saw here i was in a a

1802
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:26,239
dream space or whatever you want to call

1803
01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:27,280
it but

1804
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:28,560
there's definitely

1805
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:31,360
it was just a huge energy and she was

1806
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:33,600
she was a feminist she was a

1807
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,480
feminine woman dancing and her wings

1808
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:38,400
were stretched out into infinity and

1809
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:40,480
they were made out of

1810
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:42,480
energetic silk that's the best way i

1811
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:45,520
could describe what she looked like

1812
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:46,719
fascinating

1813
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:47,600
um

1814
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:48,800
were you

1815
01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:51,040
uh we're gonna stay right here

1816
01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:53,679
while this is happening

1817
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:55,360
how aware

1818
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:58,719
were you of your surroundings

1819
01:17:02,229 --> 01:17:01,360
i totally had a body totally totally

1820
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:02,239
totally

1821
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:07,360
withdrew and what even

1822
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:10,640
even forgetting he ever existed it was

1823
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:11,679
it was

1824
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:13,840
i was just me and this being that was

1825
01:17:17,189 --> 01:17:15,040
the only thing that existed in the

1826
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:17,199
universe at that moment wow

1827
01:17:19,890 --> 01:17:18,880
from my perception

1828
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:19,900
now were you

1829
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:22,560
[Laughter]

1830
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:23,679
were you

1831
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:33,760
able to communicate with this divine

1832
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:34,880
presence

1833
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:36,719
yeah telepathically

1834
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:39,520
you know i was i was crying and she

1835
01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:41,679
asked me why i was i wasn't i guess i

1836
01:17:45,430 --> 01:17:43,920
was crying my physical body was crying

1837
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:45,440
and i was crying in the spirit world and

1838
01:17:50,229 --> 01:17:46,960
she's like why are you crying

1839
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:50,239
and she i'm like i'm just so amazed like

1840
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:51,760
all this you know it's just i was

1841
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:53,760
overcome by look

1842
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:55,840
every time i cry she would like put her

1843
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,280
wings around me and she would pull me

1844
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,280
into her until i stopped crying and she

1845
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,199
would just stand there and and she did

1846
01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:03,440
this about two or three times and she's

1847
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,640
she's like

1848
01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:06,239
are you going to waste all this time you

1849
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:07,600
know like

1850
01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:08,719
um

1851
01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:10,400
balling going through all this are you

1852
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,840
going to start communicating with me i

1853
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:13,679
started asking her questions

1854
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:16,719
and she uh she literally said that are

1855
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:17,920
you good are you going to waste your

1856
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:20,080
time crying like a little baby

1857
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:23,360
or are we going to get down to business

1858
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:26,320
yeah she was i mean is looking back at

1859
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:28,000
at first i was like wow it was like man

1860
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:30,159
this i mean this is literally

1861
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:32,480
you know what my perception this is what

1862
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:34,000
was going on

1863
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:36,320
and um

1864
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:37,920
so i started asking her questions and i

1865
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:39,760
started like

1866
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,640
talking like we are now but in like

1867
01:18:45,669 --> 01:18:44,239
trying to do that telepathically and i

1868
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:45,679
got through a question or two and she's

1869
01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:47,600
like look she's like if you want to

1870
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:49,360
really do this she's like you you got to

1871
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:51,760
do it like this and she like showed me

1872
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:55,120
that was like my first like for sure

1873
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:56,960
download i i felt what a for sure

1874
01:19:01,669 --> 01:18:59,679
download felt like like a third like a

1875
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:01,679
third eye like pinch on your third eye

1876
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:03,120
like in the middle of your forehead and

1877
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:04,000
like

1878
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:06,640
your head pulsating and

1879
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:08,480
so much information come to me so

1880
01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:10,560
quickly and

1881
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:12,000
yeah that's

1882
01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:13,840
it was really that led into the third

1883
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:15,760
ceremony when the third ceremony showed

1884
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:19,040
me what i'm doing now it showed me

1885
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:20,880
what i was going to be doing i had i

1886
01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:23,280
didn't believe it at the time at all now

1887
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:25,760
uh you sound pretty cognizant right now

1888
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:26,719
like you

1889
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:29,760
you recall and you remember everything

1890
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:32,400
um this ceremony lasts for a long time

1891
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:34,880
right this this on a linear

1892
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,159
3d in our existence if we're looking at

1893
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:41,040
a watch hours are going by

1894
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:42,000
um

1895
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:43,760
let's stay on the second ceremony before

1896
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:46,159
we get to the third sure

1897
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:49,120
um and uh and i appreciate your

1898
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:50,560
candidness

1899
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:51,760
with all of this because i'm just

1900
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,470
were you able to remember

1901
01:20:01,750 --> 01:20:00,000
not only the downloads but the

1902
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:01,760
conversation itself

1903
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:03,600
because

1904
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:06,480
how many hours went by do you have

1905
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:08,239
do you have any concept of that was it

1906
01:20:14,470 --> 01:20:12,080
eight hours four hours ten hours

1907
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:14,480
maybe three um

1908
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:17,040
i was in this space though

1909
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:19,120
the physic my physical body was in the

1910
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:20,800
ceremony maybe

1911
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:23,440
three hours in in this deep space the

1912
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:25,760
ceremony lasted maybe longer maybe five

1913
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:28,080
six eight hours right but this is the

1914
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:29,760
build up and come down and everything

1915
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,639
right right right the space

1916
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:34,320
okay

1917
01:20:39,189 --> 01:20:36,480
i have no idea how long i was

1918
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:39,199
that i was in out of body

1919
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:40,480
it was

1920
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:44,159
information and time that i was in there

1921
01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:46,000
and it's kind of going it's kind of like

1922
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,840
going through a wormhole and time

1923
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:49,760
doesn't even exist anymore and you're

1924
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:51,600
just kind of

1925
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:54,239
inside the universe you're melded into

1926
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:55,280
the ocean

1927
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,679
of what happens in ayahuasca ceremony

1928
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:01,679
the drop goes into the ocean and then

1929
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:04,400
becomes the ocean now uh and i love that

1930
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:07,040
uh i love that analogy and putting it

1931
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:10,159
that way and and i've heard this before

1932
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:13,199
but i guess my point is drew that three

1933
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:16,239
hours is a friggin long time

1934
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,320
it's a long time that's a lot of

1935
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:20,159
information that's a lot of conversation

1936
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:21,840
i do three hours a night on the radio

1937
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,400
every night i know what three hours is

1938
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:25,920
right that concept

1939
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:27,040
um

1940
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,120
uh do you recall uh uh were you able to

1941
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:33,840
retain the information

1942
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:37,199
it comes out over time right um

1943
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,199
you get you get the initial

1944
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:41,520
you get the initial download but

1945
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:44,000
you know i'm still on pack and

1946
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:45,840
those first ceremonies you know that i'm

1947
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:47,920
still unpacking every ceremony i've ever

1948
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:49,760
been in i think the integration goes

1949
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:51,679
continues on until

1950
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:52,960
forever i think you're always

1951
01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,480
integrating because i think the

1952
01:21:59,189 --> 01:21:56,719
information that you're getting is

1953
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:59,199
is much more than our human self is

1954
01:22:02,870 --> 01:22:00,639
meant to contain

1955
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:02,880
and and that that's why it's available

1956
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:05,280
out outside of our human body because

1957
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,440
it's it's so vast and ever expanding so

1958
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:11,840
i think that's uh why it's like that

1959
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:12,719
yeah

1960
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:14,800
you know it unfolds when it's important

1961
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:17,440
i guess is the best answer now this is

1962
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:19,679
uh this is what is so amazing

1963
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:22,000
uh you went into this because

1964
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:25,679
of uh an attempted suicide ptsd two

1965
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:26,800
tours

1966
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:28,639
uh through the middle east that's

1967
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:30,000
traumatic

1968
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:32,480
uh i can't imagine how that affects you

1969
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:34,400
consciously and emotionally

1970
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:35,199
uh

1971
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:37,840
it is what it is i just can't imagine

1972
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:38,880
that

1973
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:41,520
but i look at you now

1974
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:44,560
dude you are bright eyed

1975
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:48,960
uh smiling uh you are alive

1976
01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:51,679
i mean not well you're alive but you're

1977
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:52,719
alive

1978
01:22:58,709 --> 01:22:55,360
i'm living

1979
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:58,719
right right how are you today

1980
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:01,360
compared to three years ago

1981
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:02,320
i

1982
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:04,960
me

1983
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:07,360
in 2016 before the first ceremony jimmy

1984
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:08,800
you know is like

1985
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:10,480
i was a beer drinking veteran you know

1986
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:14,560
that uh toxic patriotism you know toxic

1987
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:16,159
masculinity

1988
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:17,520
um

1989
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:22,639
not willing to face it you know and that

1990
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:23,840
was me

1991
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:26,639
hateful full of rage right you know

1992
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,679
quick to snap right um

1993
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:31,440
thought that everybody owed me something

1994
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:34,400
just the list goes on and on and on and

1995
01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:35,199
um

1996
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:36,880
these first couple ceremonies you know

1997
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,880
they they showed me a lot about what i

1998
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:40,639
was going to be doing in the future

1999
01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:43,679
and i asked one of the things i asked

2000
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:45,440
when this come up

2001
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,239
in in these ceremonies with the spirits

2002
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:50,480
i'm like you don't know me like you

2003
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:51,600
don't know what you don't know what i

2004
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:53,360
did in iraq you don't know

2005
01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:55,040
you know

2006
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:56,960
you don't you don't know my dark stuff

2007
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:58,560
and

2008
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,719
that this is kind of a chuckle came from

2009
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:02,560
the spirits and they're like you you're

2010
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:04,800
severely underestimating of our

2011
01:24:09,350 --> 01:24:07,360
capabilities we have we've known every

2012
01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:09,360
single step you took every single breath

2013
01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:11,040
every single blink of an eye we've seen

2014
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:13,600
it all and this is the reason why

2015
01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:16,000
we're you're you're being brung forward

2016
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,840
to do this now

2017
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,199
and um

2018
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:21,360
because they they told me that uh if i

2019
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:22,880
can

2020
01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:25,840
i was able to channel energy um to the

2021
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:27,679
point where i was willing to take lives

2022
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:29,920
in iraq and i could take that energy and

2023
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:31,920
turn it 180 degrees and i could help

2024
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:33,120
heal the world

2025
01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:34,560
and they told me i would be i'd be doing

2026
01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:36,320
that one day

2027
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:38,560
what was uh

2028
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,480
now wait a minute

2029
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:42,400
you just said third ceremony you were

2030
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:45,280
booked for two did you do a third

2031
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:48,639
ceremony on this same

2032
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,080
visit next next weekend okay okay stop

2033
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:54,560
okay stop stop stop stop

2034
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:57,520
okay so after

2035
01:25:01,110 --> 01:25:00,080
after the second ceremony right the next

2036
01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:01,120
day

2037
01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:02,719
you know you're you're with your

2038
01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:04,239
girlfriend now wife

2039
01:25:10,390 --> 01:25:07,199
um what was it like just tell me

2040
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:10,400
what was it like on the drive back home

2041
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:12,960
because you were you were one person

2042
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:14,000
yeah yeah

2043
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:15,920
you know i can see it all right you're

2044
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:17,760
one person before

2045
01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:20,320
you do the two ceremonies now you gotta

2046
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,679
drive home

2047
01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:23,679
and you guys have to talk

2048
01:25:27,910 --> 01:25:25,679
what was that like

2049
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:27,920
so the ride back from orlando to fort

2050
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:30,159
myers it's about three hours i guess

2051
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,840
that's enough right it's a it's a sunday

2052
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:35,840
and um

2053
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:37,840
the first hour of it

2054
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:39,360
i don't think we said anything to each

2055
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:41,120
other exactly

2056
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:43,280
her second ceremony was similar to mine

2057
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:45,760
she had mind-blowing you know

2058
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:47,600
mind-blowing experience

2059
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:50,960
and um something she'll never forget and

2060
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,080
um

2061
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:54,400
it was just silence and

2062
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,040
we had music on i couldn't listen to the

2063
01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:59,520
same music anymore like

2064
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:01,360
and um

2065
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:04,080
we're driving past churches jimmy like

2066
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:05,520
so it's sunday right and all these

2067
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,560
churches are

2068
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,120
and i'm driving past these churches and

2069
01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:11,520
i'm just boiling mad you know like

2070
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:14,639
not mad but like i i i told my wife i

2071
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:16,480
was like babe that's like i'm about to

2072
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,920
pull in one of these churches kick the

2073
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:19,920
door open just just run in there and

2074
01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:22,320
said they got it all wrong they just run

2075
01:26:26,470 --> 01:26:24,280
out like i just wanted it was

2076
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:26,480
overwhelming like

2077
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:29,360
what i saw that second ceremony and what

2078
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:30,000
i

2079
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:30,880
what

2080
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:32,719
just clicked to me right away after

2081
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:34,560
seeing it and feeling it and being

2082
01:26:39,590 --> 01:26:37,760
inside the universe like that

2083
01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:39,600
it's something that you can't ever

2084
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:42,320
forget you know you you can't never undo

2085
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:43,600
it and

2086
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:45,920
you know now i now i really respect the

2087
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:47,760
church and all always because i

2088
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:48,960
understand they're

2089
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:51,679
it's like a road map to get back to the

2090
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:53,760
oneness or the christ consciousness or

2091
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:55,679
whatever source

2092
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:57,600
but uh yeah at that time going past a

2093
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:00,560
bunch of churches it was just um

2094
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:03,040
crazy and

2095
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:06,000
uh went home and for the next couple for

2096
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:07,600
the next

2097
01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:09,120
week until we went back that next

2098
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,280
weekend and did two more ceremonies

2099
01:27:16,870 --> 01:27:13,920
and uh but for the next week uh dreams

2100
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:16,880
were really intense um you know the

2101
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:18,960
ayahuasca flashbacks they call it or

2102
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:21,440
whatever um

2103
01:27:25,510 --> 01:27:23,440
really really that was my first

2104
01:27:26,870 --> 01:27:25,520
experience with really uh

2105
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:26,880
lucid dreaming

2106
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:28,639
and um that's

2107
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:31,520
when uh i started really getting lucid

2108
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:33,040
dreaming where i would start seeing

2109
01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:34,400
things and they had happened like right

2110
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:35,360
away

2111
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:37,920
um within a day or two

2112
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:39,920
and that's that was just

2113
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:42,080
even more confirming everything i saw is

2114
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:44,400
like wow this is like

2115
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:45,840
it's

2116
01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:46,960
well and

2117
01:27:52,149 --> 01:27:49,520
and it takes it takes me to one of the

2118
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:52,159
uh one of the most famous

2119
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:53,760
uh quotes

2120
01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,480
uh that i repeat all the time

2121
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:58,480
but

2122
01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:01,199
things are never what they seem

2123
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:02,239
any ever

2124
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:05,920
nothing

2125
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:11,679
and and you're raised a certain way

2126
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:13,280
uh and it doesn't matter who you are

2127
01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:14,719
you're drew but it doesn't matter who

2128
01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:16,400
you are on this planet you're all raised

2129
01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:18,320
a certain way and then you go through an

2130
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:20,480
experience like that and that type of

2131
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:21,920
exposure

2132
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:23,600
and then you have to take a step back

2133
01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:25,120
and look around

2134
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:26,800
and go

2135
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:30,000
nothing nothing is what it seems nothing

2136
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:31,040
is clear

2137
01:28:35,590 --> 01:28:33,360
paradigm shift jimmy the real the real

2138
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:35,600
guy the word the word is doesn't give it

2139
01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:38,159
justice but paradigm

2140
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:40,000
shift that

2141
01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:42,480
it just it will never be the same you

2142
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:44,480
know it will never be my life will never

2143
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,480
be the same my outlook on everything and

2144
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:48,480
everybody around me who am i talking to

2145
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:50,000
will never be the same

2146
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:51,760
now um uh

2147
01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:53,679
we're gonna take a break in a minute uh

2148
01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:55,280
in 60 seconds

2149
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:56,800
but here's the deal

2150
01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:58,960
you almost checked out

2151
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:01,600
after ceremony one right

2152
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:03,760
yeah you almost checked out

2153
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:06,080
you get through ceremony two

2154
01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:07,199
um

2155
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,159
you go back home and you guys you guys

2156
01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:12,880
re-up you guys re-enlist

2157
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:14,639
you guys

2158
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:17,280
you want your second tour of duty

2159
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:20,800
and yeah you immediately go back uh

2160
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:23,280
seven days later six days later

2161
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:24,400
yeah i was either

2162
01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:26,000
it was either a week or two weeks later

2163
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:27,679
i was actually told at the end of my

2164
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:30,239
second ceremony by by the spirit to come

2165
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:31,840
back and

2166
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:34,560
it's like uh come back you you have a

2167
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:37,360
really important message and so the way

2168
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:39,760
these to to backtrack just a little bit

2169
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:41,520
real quick these ceremonies start off

2170
01:29:45,189 --> 01:29:43,360
with intention so you give an attention

2171
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:45,199
to the medicine like what you want like

2172
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:47,840
i want to trail here heal childhood

2173
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:49,760
trauma i want to know my reason for

2174
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:52,320
being here so that that was my question

2175
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:54,239
going into my third ceremony that came

2176
01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:56,560
from a lucid dream it's like it told me

2177
01:29:59,830 --> 01:29:58,080
this is the intention you need to go in

2178
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:59,840
with and

2179
01:30:02,070 --> 01:30:00,800
i was

2180
01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:02,080
i'll get more into the story when we

2181
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:04,080
come back yeah when we come back and you

2182
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:06,800
know what's funny is great teaser yeah

2183
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,000
yeah great teaser is uh uh

2184
01:30:16,310 --> 01:30:12,560
i gotta make this quick is that there

2185
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:16,320
are inevitably kind of like yourself

2186
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:17,679
um

2187
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:19,360
there are those that you know what i've

2188
01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:22,080
i've already got it all figured out

2189
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:24,560
all right i i don't have any traumas i

2190
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:26,080
need fixed

2191
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:28,800
those are the ones right

2192
01:30:32,229 --> 01:30:30,000
am i right

2193
01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:32,239
okay yeah yeah let's take our break

2194
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:34,080
right here this is fade to black i'm

2195
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:35,360
your host jimmy church what a great show

2196
01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:38,400
tonight drew banke is here this is fade

2197
01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:40,960
to black tonight plant medicines

2198
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:43,120
and e.t we're gonna get to all of that

2199
01:31:05,110 --> 01:30:54,810
so

2200
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:08,229
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2201
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:11,360
you're listening to fade to black

2202
01:31:15,910 --> 01:31:13,199
always on the edge of the hottest

2203
01:31:21,790 --> 01:31:15,920
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2204
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:33,990
[Applause]

2205
01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:35,669
when you think about the future of our

2206
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:37,440
country and where we're headed do you

2207
01:31:42,470 --> 01:31:40,560
wonder about the food supply i do

2208
01:31:44,709 --> 01:31:42,480
disruptions in the food supply chain

2209
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:44,719
could be disastrous and they usually

2210
01:31:49,510 --> 01:31:47,440
occur with little warning that's why the

2211
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2212
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2219
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2223
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2224
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2225
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2226
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2236
01:33:03,130 --> 01:32:56,600
easier just go to

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01:33:03,140 --> 01:33:07,110
[Music]

2238
01:33:12,149 --> 01:33:09,070
and so downl the cia

2239
01:33:12,149 --> 01:33:12,159
[Music]

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01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:17,189
kgraradio.com

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01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:19,189
you are listening to fade to black with

2242
01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:26,470
hi i'm reese vance you're listening to

2243
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:29,440
jimmy church this is revolution the

2244
01:33:35,590 --> 01:33:32,239
revolution will not be televised the

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01:33:40,220 --> 01:33:35,600
revolution is on radio

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01:34:18,149 --> 01:34:14,280
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2247
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:19,910
welcome back fade to black i am your

2248
01:34:24,790 --> 01:34:21,600
host jimmy church tonight drew banke is

2249
01:34:27,430 --> 01:34:24,800
here tomorrow night is our 1500th show

2250
01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:27,440
tonight is 14.99

2251
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:30,400
drew banky on 14.99 tomorrow night 1500

2252
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:32,560
with uh grant cameron thursday nights

2253
01:34:35,590 --> 01:34:34,480
another fader night with open lines all

2254
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:35,600
night long

2255
01:34:41,590 --> 01:34:38,960
and uh now continuing the conversation

2256
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:41,600
and and and i'm giggling because i love

2257
01:34:48,870 --> 01:34:44,840
the journey uh that that

2258
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:48,880
drew um in some respects drew uh this is

2259
01:34:55,270 --> 01:34:52,960
not this is not in your control anymore

2260
01:34:56,790 --> 01:34:55,280
this is this is something else that is

2261
01:35:00,790 --> 01:34:56,800
going on but

2262
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:00,800
you go back for ceremony uh number three

2263
01:35:05,270 --> 01:35:03,199
um let's just uh let's

2264
01:35:07,270 --> 01:35:05,280
let's go straight into it there we could

2265
01:35:09,669 --> 01:35:07,280
spend a whole segment on

2266
01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:09,679
what you went through that week and and

2267
01:35:13,669 --> 01:35:12,159
what happened but we have other things i

2268
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:13,679
want to get to tonight and i want to get

2269
01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:14,960
to uh

2270
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:19,679
uh number three uh what happened uh on

2271
01:35:23,830 --> 01:35:22,000
on day number three

2272
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:23,840
uh just real quick i want i want to

2273
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:25,760
shout out to ronnie lindsay he's been

2274
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:27,520
supporting me for a long time now he's

2275
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:29,440
in the chat room on facebook live so

2276
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:32,080
shout out to him right on ronnie

2277
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:33,679
and um okay

2278
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:37,119
ceremony number three um so sarah so

2279
01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:39,040
both both the first two ceremonies are

2280
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:41,440
nighttime ceremonies start start after

2281
01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:43,199
the sun goes down start with a fire

2282
01:35:48,070 --> 01:35:45,119
prayer blah blah blah

2283
01:35:49,109 --> 01:35:48,080
and um early morning before the sun

2284
01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:49,119
comes up

2285
01:35:55,109 --> 01:35:51,840
so third ceremony um was a daytime

2286
01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:55,119
ceremony starting in the morning so done

2287
01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:57,600
um

2288
01:36:02,870 --> 01:35:58,480
in

2289
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:02,880
they actually still hold daytime

2290
01:36:08,709 --> 01:36:05,760
ceremonies in the same area but um

2291
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:08,719
so it's in the shade um let me see this

2292
01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:10,960
is in june

2293
01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:13,520
june yeah i think it was in june

2294
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:16,000
so really warm you know orlando florida

2295
01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:18,080
super hot sweating and everything and

2296
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:20,080
everybody's got a bottle of water we

2297
01:36:25,270 --> 01:36:22,000
drank the medicine already and there's

2298
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:25,280
about 15 or 20 of us sitting around

2299
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:29,199
they start singing the songs and

2300
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:30,560
it would start

2301
01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:32,400
having a very different experience

2302
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:34,159
during the daytime that i did at night

2303
01:36:37,510 --> 01:36:36,239
like it was very

2304
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:37,520
external

2305
01:36:41,430 --> 01:36:39,760
so i started seeing the sunlight i

2306
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:41,440
started seeing the crystalline pattern

2307
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:43,440
in the sunlight i was looking at plants

2308
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:45,199
that were beside me like ferns and

2309
01:36:49,109 --> 01:36:46,960
whatnot that was in the you know it's

2310
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:49,119
kind of like jungley in florida so i

2311
01:36:51,910 --> 01:36:50,400
started looking at the ferns and

2312
01:36:53,990 --> 01:36:51,920
everything and i started seeing like

2313
01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:54,000
crystalline patterns in them and they

2314
01:36:57,590 --> 01:36:56,320
were moving in different ways and

2315
01:36:58,950 --> 01:36:57,600
i was like

2316
01:37:01,750 --> 01:36:58,960
i started to feel like i was about to

2317
01:37:03,350 --> 01:37:01,760
throw up and i was like man i'm getting

2318
01:37:05,270 --> 01:37:03,360
really hot

2319
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:05,280
and i this cup of water that i had

2320
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:08,080
setting beside me it had fell over and

2321
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:09,760
it just flooded the mat that i was

2322
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:11,920
sitting on so i was just

2323
01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:13,760
just as soon as that thought

2324
01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:15,600
come through my head of man i'm getting

2325
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,719
too hot the i watched the cup fall over

2326
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:21,840
like i don't know what did it like um

2327
01:37:26,149 --> 01:37:23,920
and it fell over onto the mat and just

2328
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:26,159
flooded with ice cold water

2329
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:28,000
and i just start at that point i just

2330
01:37:31,990 --> 01:37:30,080
started crying you know i just started

2331
01:37:35,510 --> 01:37:32,000
uh crying and looking around there was

2332
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:35,520
ants walking around and um the aunt one

2333
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:37,199
of the ants like said to me they're like

2334
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:40,080
uh you should walk around and i was like

2335
01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:41,679
i called one of the helpers over i was

2336
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:43,520
like can i walk around and you're like

2337
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:45,040
yeah we can walk around with you you

2338
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:46,639
know within reason

2339
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:48,880
and if you want to explore a little bit

2340
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:50,320
and i they're like you're good to walk i

2341
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:51,840
was like yeah i'm good to walk so help

2342
01:37:56,709 --> 01:37:54,480
me up and walk with me and i went sat

2343
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:56,719
down by a tree and

2344
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,360
um i sat down on this little tree and he

2345
01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:00,960
like this little tree like spoke to me

2346
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:02,400
it's like watch out dude

2347
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:03,520
i like

2348
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:05,119
scoot over to the side i look down as

2349
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:07,600
like this little baby tree and it's like

2350
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:09,119
you're like oh it's like oh thanks for

2351
01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:10,800
sitting down beside me it's like i'm not

2352
01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:12,880
i really was hoping for an experience

2353
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,880
like this and i'm like i was just blown

2354
01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:16,480
away you know like this tree was like

2355
01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:19,119
telepathically speaking to me

2356
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:21,920
and um at this point like

2357
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:24,239
my mind starts to i guess my physical

2358
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:26,560
mind starts processing this information

2359
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:27,600
i start

2360
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:28,480
to

2361
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:30,400
almost become sick and i was like well i

2362
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:31,440
need to go back i need to go to the

2363
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:32,639
bathroom

2364
01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:34,159
so the guy that was there with me i was

2365
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:36,239
like can you help me go to

2366
01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:37,920
the bathroom like can you help me up to

2367
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,760
the to the house

2368
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:42,000
i got about halfway to

2369
01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:45,760
the bathroom and uh the ground pulled me

2370
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:47,440
down um

2371
01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:51,520
ground i didn't throw up or use the

2372
01:38:55,830 --> 01:38:53,040
bathroom or anything

2373
01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:55,840
but i went into this very deep uh vision

2374
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:59,119
i saw a ant walking and i started

2375
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:00,719
following this ant

2376
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:03,119
walking around around the ground

2377
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:04,800
and

2378
01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:08,159
this ant did

2379
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:10,560
and as soon as i heard it and i went

2380
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:12,480
into the ant and i all of a sudden i'm

2381
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:14,560
what i'm like my consciousness went to

2382
01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:16,960
the ant and left drew and i'm walking as

2383
01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:18,239
this ant

2384
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:20,159
and i see uh

2385
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:21,840
i see all these other ants and i go over

2386
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,440
and help one of these ants like pick up

2387
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:25,280
something and and

2388
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:27,040
there's a telepathic message from this

2389
01:39:31,270 --> 01:39:29,280
aunt says thank you you know and all of

2390
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:31,280
a sudden i go back into drew

2391
01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:33,199
and um

2392
01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:35,679
it said you helped that aunt

2393
01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,880
you know you helped that ant on the

2394
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:38,320
ground and this

2395
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:41,199
this ant that i was that i went into to

2396
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:43,360
back up just a minute this and how it

2397
01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:45,360
how it first started this amp crawled

2398
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:47,600
off to my hand and bit my like bit in

2399
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:49,280
between my fingers

2400
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:51,280
and it really hurt and i went to slap it

2401
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:52,639
and there was like this thing that

2402
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:55,280
stopped my hand from slapping the ant

2403
01:39:59,590 --> 01:39:57,760
and um i guess it was ayahuasca and it

2404
01:40:01,590 --> 01:39:59,600
said you can

2405
01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:01,600
you've used force to solve all your

2406
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:03,119
problems your whole life let me teach

2407
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:04,960
you some other way

2408
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:07,760
and it said you can choose to

2409
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:09,119
i'm not going to stop you anymore from

2410
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:10,560
slapping the at you can slap the ant if

2411
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:11,520
you want

2412
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:14,159
but you can let the ant go and see what

2413
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:15,360
happens

2414
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:17,119
in the universe of you giving that

2415
01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:19,199
compassion to that that being that you

2416
01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:21,119
could definitely destroy with without a

2417
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:23,520
thought you know with just just smash it

2418
01:40:27,030 --> 01:40:24,960
to smithereens

2419
01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:27,040
so i put it down and the ant was walking

2420
01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:29,440
along and that's that's when i went to

2421
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,199
the ant and i saw that

2422
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:33,119
i changed that ants like perception of

2423
01:40:35,669 --> 01:40:34,080
the world

2424
01:40:37,430 --> 01:40:35,679
like forever

2425
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:37,440
like it's i gave it a paradigm shift by

2426
01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:40,560
letting it go it bit me and i let it go

2427
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:42,080
and um

2428
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:44,400
it said you change that light that ants

2429
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:47,119
light the life of that ant forever

2430
01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:49,679
you're gonna change other lives moving

2431
01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:51,280
forward but it's not gonna be ants it's

2432
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:52,639
gonna be people

2433
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:54,480
and it's like and i ask how many is it

2434
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,560
just gonna do i have just one person i'm

2435
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:59,280
gonna reach like this one aunt and it

2436
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:01,920
lit up in neon like millions of ants

2437
01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:04,000
around me it said this how many people

2438
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:07,040
you're gonna reach in this lifetime

2439
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:10,159
and i said how am i gonna do this and

2440
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:12,080
they sh i saw a vision

2441
01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:15,360
of a beam like coming from

2442
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,800
the heavens going into my crown chakra

2443
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:20,880
going into my throat chakra

2444
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:22,639
and then it was

2445
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:25,199
it was going to basically use me as a

2446
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:26,480
channel to

2447
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,480
to speak through and and to spread

2448
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:30,000
information

2449
01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:31,040
to

2450
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:36,480
information that they everybody owns but

2451
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:38,960
is unable to tap into

2452
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,040
because they speak they've got lazy and

2453
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:42,800
speak through this

2454
01:41:46,149 --> 01:41:44,000
through the through the mouth and the

2455
01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:46,159
vocal cords so this is the way that we

2456
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:48,800
have to reach a lot of people

2457
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:50,480
because they forgot their rejection of

2458
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:53,600
telepathy that that's heavy

2459
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,920
i mean that's heavy um did you

2460
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:57,600
understand

2461
01:42:00,950 --> 01:41:58,639
uh

2462
01:42:03,669 --> 01:42:00,960
what this i mean because

2463
01:42:06,149 --> 01:42:03,679
uh that's complex and it takes a certain

2464
01:42:08,310 --> 01:42:06,159
individual to process that

2465
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:08,320
and understand it did you get it at the

2466
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:13,590
i didn't get it i just trusted it right

2467
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:15,520
and i i i asked how it was going to

2468
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:18,000
happen they said it was going to unfold

2469
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:19,600
you know it was going to it was going to

2470
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:21,119
unfold itself

2471
01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:24,320
and i had to i had to remain humble that

2472
01:42:28,149 --> 01:42:26,239
was one of the things i was told i had

2473
01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:28,159
to remain humble i had to not become a

2474
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:30,320
deity they told me that i i was going to

2475
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:32,080
be speaking messages

2476
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:33,360
at a certain

2477
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:35,119
people are going to see me a certain way

2478
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:36,560
and they're going to want to make me a

2479
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:38,960
deity said do not become a deity because

2480
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:41,280
the message that you're spreading is

2481
01:42:44,950 --> 01:42:43,440
showing that the deity is inside each

2482
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:44,960
and every one of us

2483
01:42:49,109 --> 01:42:47,360
and we have to access it ourselves

2484
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:49,119
so that's the basis between behind the

2485
01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:51,440
message and

2486
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:54,880
you know i was i was and i asked um

2487
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,280
i said there's what

2488
01:43:02,550 --> 01:42:59,520
what i was being shown i was the

2489
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:02,560
information i was gonna be spreading

2490
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:05,840
i i couldn't fathom uh sharing it and i

2491
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:07,440
couldn't even fathom how i was gonna get

2492
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:08,800
someone to

2493
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:10,480
understand it or listen to me you know

2494
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,719
because it was just so far out there

2495
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:15,280
and um i said don't worry about it

2496
01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:17,360
you're going to spread it and there's

2497
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:19,440
the vibration is going to go is going to

2498
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,960
reach some people and it's going to go

2499
01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:22,719
right past some people there's some

2500
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:24,320
people it's not meant to it's not meant

2501
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:26,400
to reach at this time and that's fine

2502
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:28,000
because everything is always divine

2503
01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:29,119
timing

2504
01:43:33,350 --> 01:43:31,280
every single thing

2505
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:33,360
now i want to ask you

2506
01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:36,320
uh because listening to this

2507
01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:40,560
um this is completely different

2508
01:43:45,109 --> 01:43:41,679
than

2509
01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:45,119
lsd or mushrooms or peyote

2510
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:46,719
and and

2511
01:43:50,629 --> 01:43:47,920
other

2512
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:50,639
medicines that people have talked about

2513
01:43:53,189 --> 01:43:52,400
uh in the past and and

2514
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:53,199
not

2515
01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:56,800
nobody talks about

2516
01:44:03,270 --> 01:44:00,800
uh a very consistent divine uh network

2517
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:03,280
that is out there um answering life's

2518
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:06,080
questions for you in such a direct way

2519
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,360
all right where this is this is definite

2520
01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:11,119
this you know what i mean what what are

2521
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:13,679
the differences

2522
01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:15,520
you're not gonna get this from peyote

2523
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:17,199
you're not gonna get this from lsd

2524
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:18,880
you're not gonna get this

2525
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:22,159
from mushrooms

2526
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:26,629
you're wrong

2527
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:29,280
because you can um well i've done i've

2528
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:31,280
done i've done uh but i've done all of

2529
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:32,560
those

2530
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:36,950
setting where

2531
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:39,520
you have someone that has

2532
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:42,080
a relationship a pre-established

2533
01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:43,520
relationship

2534
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:44,400
with

2535
01:44:47,669 --> 01:44:45,920
just just say you have a family member

2536
01:44:49,990 --> 01:44:47,679
jimmy that lives in germany

2537
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:50,000
and you've never met them but you know

2538
01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:52,400
they're there you spoke to them does

2539
01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:54,080
that make them any less real that you've

2540
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:55,040
never

2541
01:44:58,790 --> 01:44:56,719
been in their physical presence and

2542
01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:58,800
shook their hand their physical hand

2543
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:00,480
they're still real

2544
01:45:05,669 --> 01:45:03,520
so this is what this is what

2545
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:05,679
medicine people shamans whatever you

2546
01:45:09,590 --> 01:45:07,520
want whatever you want to call

2547
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:09,600
uh people working with with these sacred

2548
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:10,639
ways

2549
01:45:16,310 --> 01:45:13,119
and it's it's about a it's about a heart

2550
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:16,320
space that they found freeing and true

2551
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:18,080
sovereignty and they're trying to spread

2552
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:20,080
it to other people and humanity that's

2553
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:21,280
the basis

2554
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:24,320
behind all true

2555
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:27,040
heartfelt medicine people's work

2556
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:29,360
okay they found two sovereignty through

2557
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:30,719
this and they're trying to show other

2558
01:45:38,870 --> 01:45:33,280
people well i did the sacred ceremony of

2559
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:38,880
mushrooms and a fog hat concert in 1979.

2560
01:45:42,830 --> 01:45:41,760
yeah okay all right now

2561
01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:42,840
now

2562
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:48,480
i don't

2563
01:45:53,750 --> 01:45:51,840
i i'm glad you appreciate that um i

2564
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:53,760
don't see

2565
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,280
ayahuasca

2566
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:57,280
in a foghat concert

2567
01:46:01,750 --> 01:45:59,760
combining

2568
01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:01,760
i don't see that awesome i saw an

2569
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:03,760
awesome meme the other day it said when

2570
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:06,960
i was 19 i took mushrooms to get effed

2571
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:07,679
up

2572
01:46:13,030 --> 01:46:10,960
when i'm 39 i took i took mushrooms to

2573
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:13,040
fix me from getting upped up yeah i know

2574
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:15,920
right now that that is correct that is

2575
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:19,520
absolutely correct um but uh

2576
01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:23,199
it it i i i just find that from from

2577
01:46:27,590 --> 01:46:24,320
speaking to you and the other

2578
01:46:31,189 --> 01:46:27,600
information that i have that that um

2579
01:46:35,270 --> 01:46:31,199
the ayahuasca experi experience

2580
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:35,280
um and the ceremony is definitive

2581
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:36,320
right

2582
01:46:40,550 --> 01:46:38,719
it's not uh i keep going back to the

2583
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:40,560
word recreational

2584
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:41,520
where

2585
01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:44,800
um these life changing yes yes it's

2586
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:46,639
life-changing no doubt

2587
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,400
you know right wrong or indifferent

2588
01:46:51,669 --> 01:46:50,080
whether it's placebo

2589
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:51,679
whatever it is

2590
01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:54,480
the track record behind these sacred uh

2591
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:56,320
ceremonies when they're done in a proper

2592
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:57,600
sentence setting

2593
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:58,560
is

2594
01:47:02,470 --> 01:47:00,000
almost

2595
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:02,480
you you can't touch it there's no other

2596
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:04,639
medicine that you could you could put up

2597
01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:07,040
against it that has the same results

2598
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:09,280
consistently time after time again now

2599
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,400
i'm not saying

2600
01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:12,800
that there's there's times when people

2601
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:14,960
don't connect with the medicine or or

2602
01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:17,600
have bad trips but those those trips

2603
01:47:20,709 --> 01:47:19,600
usually turn out to be there's lessons

2604
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:20,719
in those somewhere just like we

2605
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:22,000
mentioned the other day about the frat

2606
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:25,119
guys going down there right and and they

2607
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:27,280
and not going down there for a lesson

2608
01:47:32,229 --> 01:47:29,840
but they got the lessons the sp the

2609
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:32,239
spirits are operating and the energetic

2610
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:34,560
rome is operating on a totally different

2611
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:37,679
time frame and agenda than you are

2612
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:38,800
so

2613
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:40,400
now it's uh

2614
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:42,080
let's uh

2615
01:47:46,149 --> 01:47:44,639
let's let's sort of change direction a

2616
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:46,159
little bit not

2617
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:47,760
but staying on the same subject of

2618
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:48,960
course

2619
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:51,199
is that

2620
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:54,320
uh dmt

2621
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:58,080
is already naturally in our body

2622
01:48:02,629 --> 01:48:00,320
correct correct in our br in our brain

2623
01:48:06,550 --> 01:48:02,639
brainstem lungs right

2624
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:06,560
now um and that i find interesting and

2625
01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:07,760
and

2626
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:09,679
on so many different levels

2627
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:16,149
smoking dmt

2628
01:48:21,990 --> 01:48:18,639
and and going direct and not doing you

2629
01:48:24,629 --> 01:48:22,000
know a day-long ayahuasca ceremony but

2630
01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:24,639
uh going directly to source

2631
01:48:27,430 --> 01:48:25,760
um

2632
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:27,440
the

2633
01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:33,199
i've been with many shamans uh to talk

2634
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:35,440
about this i haven't done it yet

2635
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:37,199
but that this is uh

2636
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:40,080
yes that's the key word

2637
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:43,040
it's as long as i can drink coffee um it

2638
01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:47,520
is is this is uh a short term

2639
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:50,800
you know 10 15 20 minute

2640
01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:52,320
connection

2641
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:54,320
and then

2642
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:56,159
you are out of it

2643
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:58,239
right you come you step out of it and

2644
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:00,960
you're back into this reality

2645
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:03,520
nearly immediately am i describing that

2646
01:49:06,149 --> 01:49:04,719
correctly

2647
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:06,159
correct yeah the

2648
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:07,119
so the

2649
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:09,440
the dmt the particular dmt that's

2650
01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:12,800
contained in our body is for any dmt

2651
01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:15,679
um and that's the dmt that's contained

2652
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:19,920
in ayahuasca now the the five emio dmt

2653
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:21,679
right that's th that's the bufo of aries

2654
01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:23,360
frog and that's that's that's a whole

2655
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:25,040
different show in itself

2656
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:26,400
but um

2657
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:30,639
yeah it's the the dmt without any uh

2658
01:49:35,589 --> 01:49:32,560
without any helpers it's a very it's

2659
01:49:38,470 --> 01:49:35,599
very short it's very uh

2660
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:38,480
it's very abrupt direct it's hard it's

2661
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:40,480
hard to really bring back messages from

2662
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:42,719
that so i know you're speaking about i'd

2663
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:44,480
rather blast off with dmt than try

2664
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:47,199
ayahuasca ayahuasca is going to treat

2665
01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:48,800
you better and you're going to get

2666
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:50,560
you're actually going to have a

2667
01:49:54,470 --> 01:49:51,840
better

2668
01:49:57,589 --> 01:49:54,480
experience with ayahuasca in a

2669
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:57,599
traditional form do you um

2670
01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:00,960
uh what if i wanted to do baby steps

2671
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:02,880
what if i didn't want to go straight

2672
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:04,000
into

2673
01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:04,800
right

2674
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:07,199
uh this is your audition jimmy yeah this

2675
01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:09,840
is your audience 100 there's no question

2676
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:11,760
about it uh

2677
01:50:16,229 --> 01:50:14,960
is there a baby steps into this uh

2678
01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:16,239
through

2679
01:50:23,589 --> 01:50:22,000
to ayahuasca or do you suggest the

2680
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:23,599
opposite

2681
01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:25,920
normally what we would uh people people

2682
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:28,239
that asked for this normally we would do

2683
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:30,320
like uh we would hike with san pedro for

2684
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:31,360
a day

2685
01:50:35,109 --> 01:50:33,679
and that's uh that's a lot milder it's a

2686
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:35,119
cactus medicine

2687
01:50:39,589 --> 01:50:37,440
it's done during the day and it's a

2688
01:50:42,310 --> 01:50:39,599
mountain hike it's done pretty much from

2689
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:42,320
sun up to sundown and you drink uh

2690
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:44,960
cactus medicine i sing songs i i share

2691
01:50:48,070 --> 01:50:46,880
teachings about the medicine where it

2692
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:48,080
come from

2693
01:50:52,229 --> 01:50:49,520
all that and

2694
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:52,239
that really opens opens up the heart and

2695
01:50:56,629 --> 01:50:53,440
begins

2696
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:56,639
especially if people hasn't really

2697
01:51:02,149 --> 01:50:58,960
stepped foot into it and then the next

2698
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:02,159
night we would do ayahuasca and

2699
01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:03,840
we've come to find out

2700
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:05,920
the results are really really good when

2701
01:51:09,910 --> 01:51:08,080
we mix those two because

2702
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:09,920
not mix them in ceremony but mix them in

2703
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:11,520
a retreat weekend

2704
01:51:15,910 --> 01:51:13,199
because it balances out the masculine

2705
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:15,920
feminine and our experience that we've

2706
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,000
had with a lot of people um in these

2707
01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:21,280
retreats is is encounters with source

2708
01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:23,199
god godhead moments

2709
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:26,080
um source encounters and i think that's

2710
01:51:30,470 --> 01:51:28,960
directly uh accounted to the balance

2711
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:30,480
between the masculine and feminine over

2712
01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:33,360
the weekend now uh what is san pedro is

2713
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,639
san pedro again a dmt

2714
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:38,560
san pedro's masculine

2715
01:51:41,109 --> 01:51:40,159
oh

2716
01:51:43,669 --> 01:51:41,119
okay

2717
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:43,679
all right shows you how naive i am

2718
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:45,040
okay so

2719
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:47,119
peyote san pedro they both contain

2720
01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:50,719
mescaline mescaline is its own spirit

2721
01:51:55,189 --> 01:51:52,560
mescalina that's uh it has its own

2722
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:55,199
spirit it is and and i've gone down that

2723
01:52:01,109 --> 01:51:56,159
road

2724
01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:02,470
oh man

2725
01:52:06,310 --> 01:52:04,320
of the old days

2726
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:06,320
uh the old days okay before i start

2727
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,679
reminiscing

2728
01:52:12,629 --> 01:52:09,840
the screensaver behind me san pedro i'm

2729
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:12,639
why i'm looking at that and and and i'm

2730
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:15,360
having flashbacks yes yes

2731
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:20,320
now um okay so back to uh the dmt

2732
01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:22,800
uh experience um

2733
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:24,719
and i'm looking at the clock okay we've

2734
01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:26,800
got enough time to get this in

2735
01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:31,199
i went and read um is many accounts of

2736
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:33,920
different websites and blogs

2737
01:52:38,070 --> 01:52:36,480
uh from all around the world and

2738
01:52:40,149 --> 01:52:38,080
and reading

2739
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:40,159
how people have put this into text you

2740
01:52:47,669 --> 01:52:42,400
know what their experience was

2741
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:47,679
and i got to the point where i felt that

2742
01:52:53,830 --> 01:52:50,400
i was reading nearly

2743
01:52:57,430 --> 01:52:53,840
not 100 but nearly a repetitive

2744
01:52:58,870 --> 01:52:57,440
experience one after another

2745
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:58,880
uh when you first start reading them

2746
01:53:01,750 --> 01:53:00,159
they're all you know they seem a little

2747
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:01,760
bit different and they're interact and

2748
01:53:07,109 --> 01:53:04,080
then but after you get you know a few

2749
01:53:12,070 --> 01:53:07,119
hundred of these you know logged in

2750
01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:12,080
you start to see an absolute similarity

2751
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:13,040
and

2752
01:53:23,830 --> 01:53:20,880
um what is it that

2753
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:23,840
this parallel world for lack of a better

2754
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:27,040
word what is it that it represents how

2755
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:29,920
is it that everybody can tap into

2756
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:32,719
this parallel world unless they were all

2757
01:53:35,910 --> 01:53:35,119
going to the same place

2758
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:35,920
it

2759
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:40,239
frequency and vibration thing tesla had

2760
01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:42,960
it best and he nailed it if if you can

2761
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:44,880
understand that it's frequency and

2762
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:47,119
vibration and the basis that these

2763
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:48,639
medicines show you

2764
01:53:51,189 --> 01:53:50,159
is that everything you've done in your

2765
01:53:53,270 --> 01:53:51,199
life

2766
01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:53,280
you don't have to say you're sorry for

2767
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,360
you don't you you can stop saying you're

2768
01:54:00,470 --> 01:53:57,840
sorry for anything because everything is

2769
01:54:01,830 --> 01:54:00,480
in divine order all the time that is the

2770
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:01,840
message that

2771
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:04,560
is repeatedly given by these met

2772
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:08,000
psilocybin peyote uh san pedro ayahuasca

2773
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:10,480
all of them that's their basis message

2774
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:11,360
is

2775
01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:13,280
you can you can forgive yourself for

2776
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,280
anything you've ever done and you are

2777
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:17,199
perfect and so is every moment that

2778
01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:18,480
you've ever lived and that's that's

2779
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:19,840
where the first book comes from i'm

2780
01:54:23,669 --> 01:54:21,360
perfect and so are you

2781
01:54:25,830 --> 01:54:23,679
now um uh

2782
01:54:27,830 --> 01:54:25,840
a movie director

2783
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:27,840
i can say who it was

2784
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:29,040
um

2785
01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:31,440
called me up and

2786
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:33,119
told me that he just

2787
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:34,960
earlier that week

2788
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:37,840
had a dmt ceremony one

2789
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:40,080
and i said what happened and he said

2790
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:42,400
look i'm just gonna say this

2791
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:44,800
and this is why it scared me

2792
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:47,280
this is his words not mine

2793
01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:49,280
um he said

2794
01:54:53,430 --> 01:54:51,920
that instantly

2795
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:53,440
his words

2796
01:54:56,629 --> 01:54:54,320
he

2797
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:56,639
stepped into

2798
01:55:03,589 --> 01:54:58,560
another dimension

2799
01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:03,599
and sat down with two geometric robots

2800
01:55:07,990 --> 01:55:05,280
beings

2801
01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:08,000
and and had a conversation with the two

2802
01:55:12,550 --> 01:55:09,199
of them

2803
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:12,560
and and then they said goodbye he

2804
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:14,320
stepped out of the world

2805
01:55:18,550 --> 01:55:16,639
and opened up his eyes and

2806
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:18,560
he was here again

2807
01:55:21,589 --> 01:55:19,840
and i said well what are you saying he

2808
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:21,599
said jimmy

2809
01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:23,920
it was real

2810
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,960
and i said

2811
01:55:27,669 --> 01:55:26,320
what do you mean he said that's the part

2812
01:55:31,510 --> 01:55:27,679
that scared me

2813
01:55:32,229 --> 01:55:31,520
i literally went from this reality and

2814
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:32,239
so

2815
01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:35,840
and stepped into another world and it

2816
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:40,639
was absolutely real physical and and it

2817
01:55:43,990 --> 01:55:41,679
happened

2818
01:55:46,149 --> 01:55:44,000
and that's what scared me he said it was

2819
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:46,159
completely out of my control there was

2820
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:49,280
nothing i could do and then it ended

2821
01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:50,320
now

2822
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,520
that is very similar to the other things

2823
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:55,360
that i've experienced

2824
01:56:01,910 --> 01:55:59,040
and did that sound similar to you

2825
01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:01,920
yeah you know the it

2826
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:03,440
it shows you really quick you're not in

2827
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:05,280
control and

2828
01:56:09,270 --> 01:56:07,360
to allow you know it shows your true

2829
01:56:11,189 --> 01:56:09,280
nature we made a water we're made to

2830
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:11,199
flow and that's that's really what it

2831
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:14,560
shows you to flow through life and to

2832
01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:16,639
enter you know the real thing the real

2833
01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:18,080
power in this is to integrate the

2834
01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:20,159
ceremony into your physical life and

2835
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:22,080
then that same magic that you see can

2836
01:56:26,629 --> 01:56:24,159
happen in your physical life

2837
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:26,639
so we we're off grid homestead like

2838
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:29,280
we're on solar we have horses you know

2839
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:31,760
we have a greenhouse like we're tr we're

2840
01:56:35,030 --> 01:56:33,520
more and more every day we're trying to

2841
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:35,040
live more in

2842
01:56:38,470 --> 01:56:36,800
in synergy with our environment and

2843
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:38,480
everything around us so we're

2844
01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:40,800
integrating and i'm speaking for me and

2845
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:43,360
my wife and my family and this church

2846
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:45,840
that's a big thing that we focus on

2847
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:48,080
it's not it's not about seeing pretty

2848
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:49,760
pretty things and visions

2849
01:56:53,109 --> 01:56:51,760
it's about getting that information and

2850
01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:53,119
bringing it back into this world and

2851
01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:55,280
really really applying it to your life

2852
01:56:58,870 --> 01:56:56,639
to change your life

2853
01:57:01,430 --> 01:56:58,880
now uh this uh director

2854
01:57:03,990 --> 01:57:01,440
um and this part surprised me and this

2855
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:04,000
will take us into our next segment

2856
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:05,520
i said uh

2857
01:57:09,350 --> 01:57:07,840
he said what scared him was not being in

2858
01:57:11,189 --> 01:57:09,360
control

2859
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:11,199
he said that's that's the part and he

2860
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,400
didn't know if he would do it again

2861
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:14,239
because he now understands the

2862
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:16,719
abruptness he said it was instant it was

2863
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:18,320
instant going in and it was instant

2864
01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:20,560
going out completely out of his control

2865
01:57:24,550 --> 01:57:22,560
but he said this

2866
01:57:27,030 --> 01:57:24,560
i said who were you talking to

2867
01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:27,040
um he said you know what honestly

2868
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,360
i think they were e.t

2869
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:31,840
i said wait wait say say what i thought

2870
01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:34,239
you said they were robots they were but

2871
01:57:39,910 --> 01:57:36,800
they were extraterrestrial i'm convinced

2872
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:39,920
of that they they were not from here

2873
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:41,040
and

2874
01:57:44,149 --> 01:57:43,280
they were extraterrestrial

2875
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:44,159
and

2876
01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:47,920
it

2877
01:57:55,990 --> 01:57:53,760
talking to talking to a very serious

2878
01:57:57,109 --> 01:57:56,000
person right that doesn't go into this

2879
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:57,119
zone

2880
01:58:00,709 --> 01:57:58,719
and to hear

2881
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:00,719
this verbalization

2882
01:58:05,270 --> 01:58:03,280
that this was real this is what happened

2883
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:05,280
i stepped into a parallel world and i

2884
01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:08,080
was hanging out with e.t robots

2885
01:58:11,030 --> 01:58:08,880
right

2886
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:11,040
as a matter of factly as i'm saying it

2887
01:58:14,550 --> 01:58:12,880
to you right now

2888
01:58:16,229 --> 01:58:14,560
absolutely jimmy just

2889
01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:16,239
just look at what's happening now will

2890
01:58:19,430 --> 01:58:17,760
smith just come out he just did

2891
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:19,440
ayahuasca for the first time multiple

2892
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:21,040
ceremonies this happened just with over

2893
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:22,800
the past few days

2894
01:58:28,390 --> 01:58:23,679
if i

2895
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,400
our um client list it would blow your

2896
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:30,560
mind we have we have politicians from

2897
01:58:32,950 --> 01:58:32,080
other countries that's done ceremony

2898
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:32,960
with us

2899
01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:36,480
doctors lawyers chiropractors

2900
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,400
veterans uh special forces ex-navy seals

2901
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:42,400
green berets

2902
01:58:47,510 --> 01:58:44,239
all the way down to

2903
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:47,520
the the person that that i can't afford

2904
01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:49,760
to can't even get to ceremony and we go

2905
01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:51,760
pick them up and and do a free ceremony

2906
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:54,480
or you know any everywhere

2907
01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:56,320
the whole gambit in between has come to

2908
01:58:58,790 --> 01:58:57,920
ceremony with us

2909
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:58,800
and

2910
01:59:02,390 --> 01:59:00,480
it's it's helped every single person

2911
01:59:04,149 --> 01:59:02,400
that's come and set with us and and

2912
01:59:05,830 --> 01:59:04,159
we've been we've literally been doing

2913
01:59:08,030 --> 01:59:05,840
this pretty much

2914
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:08,040
uh full time since about

2915
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:10,080
2017 when we started doing this

2916
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:11,280
full-time

2917
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:14,840
will smith adjusted ayahuasca

2918
01:59:23,430 --> 01:59:20,470
yeah will smith i think

2919
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:23,440
okay hold on i gotta i gotta see this

2920
01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:25,440
he said his first taste his his first

2921
01:59:31,030 --> 01:59:29,119
taste of freedom oh man holy crap

2922
01:59:33,510 --> 01:59:31,040
what

2923
01:59:35,010 --> 01:59:33,520
this just know about this guy no

2924
01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:35,020
no

2925
01:59:44,149 --> 01:59:41,030
okay

2926
01:59:46,149 --> 01:59:44,159
oh he did he he did a dozen ayahuasca

2927
01:59:49,750 --> 01:59:46,159
rituals in peru

2928
01:59:51,510 --> 01:59:49,760
this is uh a full article wow

2929
01:59:54,070 --> 01:59:51,520
if i could show you the list of people

2930
01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:54,080
who that's coming to our ceremonies

2931
01:59:58,470 --> 01:59:55,920
it would blow your you there's been

2932
02:00:02,790 --> 01:59:58,480
names on there that you recognize

2933
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:03,669
i'm going to leave that right there

2934
02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:04,960
we're going to talk about this when we

2935
02:00:11,109 --> 02:00:07,040
come back this is fade to black i'm your

2936
02:00:12,709 --> 02:00:11,119
host jimmy church will smith i wonder uh

2937
02:00:15,589 --> 02:00:12,719
i wonder how he views of the church of

2938
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:15,599
scientology today i'm just saying i i

2939
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:17,920
just went there i did i take it back

2940
02:00:22,229 --> 02:00:20,080
this is fade to block

2941
02:00:24,750 --> 02:00:22,239
drew banky more withdrew after this

2942
02:00:27,350 --> 02:00:24,760
short break stay with us

2943
02:00:28,790 --> 02:00:27,360
[Music]

2944
02:00:34,950 --> 02:00:28,800
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2945
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:37,510
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2946
02:00:42,149 --> 02:00:38,560
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2947
02:00:43,990 --> 02:00:42,159
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2948
02:00:46,149 --> 02:00:44,000
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2949
02:00:47,830 --> 02:00:46,159
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2950
02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:47,840
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2951
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:49,760
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2952
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2964
02:01:22,950 --> 02:01:20,719
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2965
02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:22,960
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2966
02:01:28,470 --> 02:01:25,119
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2967
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2968
02:01:32,550 --> 02:01:31,440
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2970
02:01:38,070 --> 02:01:35,599
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2971
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2972
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2973
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:43,760
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2974
02:01:50,550 --> 02:01:45,760
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2975
02:01:55,750 --> 02:01:52,390
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2976
02:01:58,950 --> 02:01:55,760
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2982
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:11,760
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2983
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2984
02:02:25,669 --> 02:02:22,629
when you're in the house for longer

2985
02:02:28,070 --> 02:02:25,679
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2986
02:02:29,830 --> 02:02:28,080
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2987
02:02:33,109 --> 02:02:29,840
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2988
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:33,119
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2989
02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:37,360
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2990
02:02:42,550 --> 02:02:40,480
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2999
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3001
02:03:12,470 --> 02:03:10,639
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02:03:16,149 --> 02:03:14,920
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3005
02:03:22,149 --> 02:03:19,440
gold loves chaos uncertainty and

3006
02:03:24,070 --> 02:03:22,159
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3007
02:03:25,910 --> 02:03:24,080
when people aren't sure aren't sure

3008
02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:25,920
about the government the stock market

3009
02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:28,719
their jobs or their retirement savings

3010
02:03:33,350 --> 02:03:31,440
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3011
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3012
02:03:38,229 --> 02:03:35,520
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3013
02:03:40,550 --> 02:03:38,239
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3014
02:03:42,870 --> 02:03:40,560
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3015
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,880
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3016
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3017
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3018
02:03:51,910 --> 02:03:49,440
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3019
02:03:56,229 --> 02:03:51,920
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3020
02:03:58,470 --> 02:03:56,239
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3021
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3025
02:04:22,580 --> 02:04:13,669
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3026
02:04:27,189 --> 02:04:25,350
[Applause]

3027
02:04:30,950 --> 02:04:27,199
you want to know a secret

3028
02:04:32,310 --> 02:04:30,960
i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

3029
02:04:34,229 --> 02:04:32,320
serious

3030
02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:34,239
i couldn't stay sane without pawn

3031
02:04:39,189 --> 02:04:35,920
instabrush

3032
02:04:44,470 --> 02:04:39,199
why fade to black because you never got

3033
02:04:49,270 --> 02:04:46,629
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3034
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:49,280
on the game changer radio network and

3035
02:05:05,669 --> 02:04:53,810
kgra the global radio alliance

3036
02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:05,679
[Music]

3037
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:07,679
welcome back fade to black i am your

3038
02:05:11,510 --> 02:05:09,760
host jimmy church big revelations on the

3039
02:05:13,350 --> 02:05:11,520
show tonight

3040
02:05:15,430 --> 02:05:13,360
will smith

3041
02:05:17,430 --> 02:05:15,440
uh

3042
02:05:20,310 --> 02:05:17,440
i'm gonna leave that right there

3043
02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:20,320
uh

3044
02:05:30,310 --> 02:05:27,280
we're going to talk about e.t right now

3045
02:05:32,790 --> 02:05:30,320
uh let me say this about will um

3046
02:05:34,229 --> 02:05:32,800
uh years ago this is uh in the mid

3047
02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:34,239
mid-90s

3048
02:05:40,229 --> 02:05:37,280
um i was able to uh meet will and and

3049
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:40,239
worked with him briefly uh for

3050
02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:43,440
for a few weeks out at his house and uh

3051
02:05:48,470 --> 02:05:45,760
it involved installing a studio and

3052
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:48,480
things but we had uh you know uh we

3053
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:50,320
broke bread and had lots of dinner and

3054
02:05:54,870 --> 02:05:52,320
and and hanging out

3055
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:54,880
um and a lot of personal conversations

3056
02:06:00,149 --> 02:05:55,679
and

3057
02:06:02,790 --> 02:06:00,159
what struck me about him from the moment

3058
02:06:04,149 --> 02:06:02,800
that we met um

3059
02:06:05,990 --> 02:06:04,159
uh was that

3060
02:06:07,669 --> 02:06:06,000
extremely

3061
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:07,679
down to earth

3062
02:06:10,629 --> 02:06:08,719
um

3063
02:06:13,109 --> 02:06:10,639
you know the money and and everything

3064
02:06:13,990 --> 02:06:13,119
else that's around him uh you know i get

3065
02:06:21,030 --> 02:06:14,000
that

3066
02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:21,040
a very cool guy very

3067
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:22,719
very cool guy

3068
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:25,360
and this makes a lot of sense to me uh

3069
02:06:29,430 --> 02:06:27,760
on so many levels drew it makes a lot of

3070
02:06:32,629 --> 02:06:29,440
sense

3071
02:06:35,589 --> 02:06:32,639
uh but my mind is still blown uh because

3072
02:06:38,709 --> 02:06:35,599
of the other things that are around him

3073
02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:38,719
okay let's uh let's move on i but you

3074
02:06:41,350 --> 02:06:40,480
blew my mind with this

3075
02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:41,360
um

3076
02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:45,520
i saw your post uh last week

3077
02:06:50,470 --> 02:06:46,320
and

3078
02:06:51,350 --> 02:06:50,480
want to know i wanted to save it for the

3079
02:06:52,229 --> 02:06:51,360
show

3080
02:06:53,830 --> 02:06:52,239
um

3081
02:06:57,270 --> 02:06:53,840
but you

3082
02:07:00,629 --> 02:06:57,280
uh you mentioned et in your post

3083
02:07:02,950 --> 02:07:00,639
and so let's back up to the post i know

3084
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:02,960
that that post isn't your first uh

3085
02:07:09,270 --> 02:07:04,880
encounter with e.t

3086
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:09,280
but why did you post what you did

3087
02:07:13,990 --> 02:07:10,800
i'm not sure exactly what post you're

3088
02:07:15,030 --> 02:07:14,000
talking about on facebook yes it was on

3089
02:07:17,430 --> 02:07:15,040
facebook

3090
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:17,440
okay well that doesn't matter uh but it

3091
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:19,920
seemed that you

3092
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:23,280
uh had very recently

3093
02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:24,320
um

3094
02:07:31,030 --> 02:07:28,960
uh an e.t uh uh contact uh through plant

3095
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:31,040
medicines

3096
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:33,280
uh i mean it's it's pretty much every

3097
02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:35,040
time we do ceremony there's something

3098
02:07:40,790 --> 02:07:38,800
that happens uh around ceremony time um

3099
02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:40,800
whether it be actually during the

3100
02:07:45,109 --> 02:07:42,639
ceremony it might become before or might

3101
02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:45,119
come a day after um

3102
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:46,320
because

3103
02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:48,400
it's uh so one of the byproducts of

3104
02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,800
these ceremonies is a is an expanded

3105
02:07:54,950 --> 02:07:52,000
consciousness

3106
02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:54,960
and one of the byproducts of et

3107
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:57,840
encounters is a higher co is expanded

3108
02:08:02,069 --> 02:07:59,280
consciousness

3109
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:02,079
so they they go hand in hand and um

3110
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:04,000
you know we've i've had a lot of

3111
02:08:07,189 --> 02:08:05,920
profound experiences i witnessed a lot

3112
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:07,199
of profound experiences my

3113
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:08,560
brother-in-law

3114
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:10,000
uh one time

3115
02:08:14,629 --> 02:08:12,719
he was temporarily healed with uh he had

3116
02:08:17,990 --> 02:08:14,639
a

3117
02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:18,000
uh like 90 blind in one of his eyes

3118
02:08:21,750 --> 02:08:20,320
and for about 36 hours

3119
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:21,760
and this was just with psilocybin

3120
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:24,400
mushrooms uh we set outside uh this was

3121
02:08:28,550 --> 02:08:27,040
a few years ago in crestone um that's

3122
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,560
right i live close to creststone

3123
02:08:33,830 --> 02:08:30,639
colorado that's um if people are

3124
02:08:35,750 --> 02:08:33,840
familiar um through the c5 contact and

3125
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:35,760
all that stuff creston this valley is a

3126
02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:37,679
really hot area

3127
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:39,360
but um

3128
02:08:43,589 --> 02:08:42,000
yeah we he'd come to visit and we were

3129
02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:43,599
sitting outside and he's like hey you

3130
02:08:47,750 --> 02:08:45,760
know

3131
02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:47,760
i heard a lot of stories about you

3132
02:08:50,790 --> 02:08:48,960
seeing

3133
02:08:52,069 --> 02:08:50,800
ships or whatnot i like to see one i was

3134
02:08:54,149 --> 02:08:52,079
like well i can't i'll guarantee

3135
02:08:55,589 --> 02:08:54,159
anything but we can try so i started

3136
02:08:57,350 --> 02:08:55,599
singing some songs

3137
02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:57,360
we just ate a little bit of mushrooms

3138
02:09:01,270 --> 02:08:59,440
each and

3139
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:01,280
we started hearing footsteps around us

3140
02:09:05,669 --> 02:09:04,400
there was three beings that was

3141
02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:05,679
walking around us you could hear them

3142
02:09:08,870 --> 02:09:07,199
shuffling in the sand

3143
02:09:09,830 --> 02:09:08,880
and you could hear them communicating

3144
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:09,840
through

3145
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:12,560
um vibration uh i you could hear

3146
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:14,400
high-pitched uh noises and there was

3147
02:09:16,629 --> 02:09:15,520
three different points where they were

3148
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:16,639
coming from

3149
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:18,719
and all of a sudden he said uh

3150
02:09:22,709 --> 02:09:20,239
i can't believe i can see out of this

3151
02:09:25,510 --> 02:09:22,719
eye he's covering up his good eye and um

3152
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:25,520
he ran inside he was like re reading uh

3153
02:09:31,750 --> 02:09:28,079
cereal boxes and all kinds of stuff it

3154
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:31,760
eventually um went away like

3155
02:09:36,550 --> 02:09:34,320
like i said about 36 hours it it slowly

3156
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:36,560
started going away and i believe that

3157
02:09:40,709 --> 02:09:38,880
was his remembering that

3158
02:09:43,189 --> 02:09:40,719
he had this and it was like a

3159
02:09:45,189 --> 02:09:43,199
programming thing that that reprogrammed

3160
02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:45,199
that i to be that way

3161
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:46,960
that's that's what i believed happened

3162
02:09:53,669 --> 02:09:51,750
yeah we've had

3163
02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:53,679
a lot of experiences a lot of

3164
02:09:58,870 --> 02:09:55,920
like we're close to the

3165
02:10:01,750 --> 02:09:58,880
the colorado new mexico line which is

3166
02:10:04,629 --> 02:10:01,760
the 32nd um i always get this wrong

3167
02:10:07,109 --> 02:10:04,639
either latitude longitude correct the

3168
02:10:09,910 --> 02:10:07,119
it's the parallel yes

3169
02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:09,920
okay so the that's a major ley line for

3170
02:10:13,830 --> 02:10:11,440
the earth just like we have a shocker

3171
02:10:15,669 --> 02:10:13,840
system and meridian points the earth is

3172
02:10:18,229 --> 02:10:15,679
a living being as well she has the same

3173
02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:18,239
things this is why we have a lot of

3174
02:10:24,149 --> 02:10:19,360
there's

3175
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:24,159
line that goes across

3176
02:10:28,229 --> 02:10:26,000
goes around the whole world you can if

3177
02:10:30,950 --> 02:10:28,239
you look it up the 30 32nd is known for

3178
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:30,960
a lot of uh a majority of the sightings

3179
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:32,719
on this planet

3180
02:10:36,149 --> 02:10:34,639
and i think i believe it's directly

3181
02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:36,159
linked to the energetic leg lines of the

3182
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:39,679
earth the 37th parallel

3183
02:10:51,350 --> 02:10:50,229
i could have it wrong uh but um

3184
02:10:52,790 --> 02:10:51,360
uh

3185
02:10:55,669 --> 02:10:52,800
you know you know i'm getting that yeah

3186
02:10:56,870 --> 02:10:55,679
i do and so

3187
02:10:59,109 --> 02:10:56,880
um

3188
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:59,119
because of this uh consciousness

3189
02:11:01,510 --> 02:11:00,480
connection

3190
02:11:04,069 --> 02:11:01,520
um

3191
02:11:06,870 --> 02:11:04,079
and and all of this is elevated

3192
02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:06,880
are our crafts coming in are you seeing

3193
02:11:11,990 --> 02:11:09,840
things physically in the sky

3194
02:11:13,589 --> 02:11:12,000
yes i i have and other people have as

3195
02:11:17,030 --> 02:11:13,599
well um

3196
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:17,040
i believe it was last year um so we we

3197
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:19,440
bought this house we moved from crustone

3198
02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:21,840
uh last year in 2020 i think it was june

3199
02:11:25,510 --> 02:11:22,960
we bought it

3200
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:25,520
and we started doing ceremonies i think

3201
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:26,719
in july

3202
02:11:31,270 --> 02:11:28,719
and one of those first ceremonies we had

3203
02:11:32,870 --> 02:11:31,280
a craft and it um

3204
02:11:37,990 --> 02:11:32,880
my

3205
02:11:40,229 --> 02:11:38,000
house and she had an experience where

3206
02:11:41,510 --> 02:11:40,239
she described it as the moon but uh the

3207
02:11:43,030 --> 02:11:41,520
moon was

3208
02:11:44,709 --> 02:11:43,040
a lot closer to the house than what it

3209
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:44,719
should have been

3210
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:47,119
but uh and we've had you know people go

3211
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:48,960
outside and get a get a breath of fresh

3212
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:50,719
air during ceremony it's really common

3213
02:11:54,390 --> 02:11:52,480
for someone to

3214
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,400
to come back in and

3215
02:11:58,550 --> 02:11:56,239
you know say something's out there we've

3216
02:12:01,189 --> 02:11:58,560
i've experienced it in other ceremonies

3217
02:12:03,830 --> 02:12:01,199
the two with san pedro

3218
02:12:05,510 --> 02:12:03,840
where someone goes into that and

3219
02:12:07,750 --> 02:12:05,520
for whatever reason for their healing

3220
02:12:09,910 --> 02:12:07,760
they need to see a craft for a paradigm

3221
02:12:12,149 --> 02:12:09,920
shift in their selves sure and

3222
02:12:14,629 --> 02:12:12,159
we've had this happen um

3223
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:14,639
witnessed by several people and um

3224
02:12:19,669 --> 02:12:16,800
you know just on the state unmistakable

3225
02:12:22,229 --> 02:12:19,679
craft in the in the air is there uh a

3226
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:22,239
communication established uh between

3227
02:12:25,589 --> 02:12:24,320
these craft and yourself

3228
02:12:28,149 --> 02:12:25,599
um

3229
02:12:31,109 --> 02:12:28,159
usually not myself it's usually by

3230
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:31,119
whoever's seeing it or like if whoever's

3231
02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:33,520
witnessing it like for instance a san

3232
02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:35,360
pedro ceremony where it just happened a

3233
02:12:39,189 --> 02:12:36,880
few months ago

3234
02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:39,199
um that was

3235
02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:40,880
i didn't have communication but it was

3236
02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:42,960
definitely the person that

3237
02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:46,480
um put that intention into the ceremony

3238
02:12:51,350 --> 02:12:49,520
they had they had a moment um

3239
02:12:52,550 --> 02:12:51,360
there they lived their whole life too

3240
02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:52,560
and wanted to see a craft their whole

3241
02:12:56,310 --> 02:12:53,920
life so

3242
02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:56,320
it was it was a heart opening paradigm

3243
02:13:00,069 --> 02:12:58,000
shift in their in their life that they

3244
02:13:02,709 --> 02:13:00,079
would never forget and did you see the

3245
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:02,719
craft yourself okay yeah yeah and and

3246
02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:05,280
what did it look like

3247
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:08,880
um it was a blue craft and it had a blue

3248
02:13:12,229 --> 02:13:10,880
tail behind it and

3249
02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:12,239
it was

3250
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:20,400
was more coming up from the earth at a

3251
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,800
at a 45 degree angle going out

3252
02:13:27,189 --> 02:13:24,480
and um

3253
02:13:28,870 --> 02:13:27,199
yeah it stopped it it uh disappeared for

3254
02:13:31,109 --> 02:13:28,880
a moment and then reappeared and it it

3255
02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:31,119
was it was a clear night there was no

3256
02:13:34,390 --> 02:13:32,880
cloud cover or anything

3257
02:13:36,390 --> 02:13:34,400
um but it

3258
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:36,400
basically went out of went out of this

3259
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:38,079
dimensional field and then back in just

3260
02:13:44,709 --> 02:13:40,480
to show us that i guess it could yeah

3261
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:44,719
right right right um did you uh have the

3262
02:13:52,470 --> 02:13:46,480
ability to

3263
02:13:55,350 --> 02:13:53,990
no um

3264
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:55,360
distance

3265
02:14:01,830 --> 02:13:58,719
probably a couple miles oh off the off

3266
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:01,840
the surface of the earth

3267
02:14:06,629 --> 02:14:03,520
um

3268
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:06,639
probably it was it was below

3269
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:09,199
airplane level so probably below 20 000

3270
02:14:13,270 --> 02:14:10,800
feet it was within 20 000 feet of the

3271
02:14:14,709 --> 02:14:13,280
earth probably yeah yeah and isn't it

3272
02:14:16,950 --> 02:14:14,719
interesting

3273
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:16,960
how intention

3274
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:18,880
is is real

3275
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:20,320
right absolutely

3276
02:14:24,310 --> 02:14:23,040
yeah it's magic it's it's it's magic man

3277
02:14:27,350 --> 02:14:24,320
like

3278
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:27,360
it's and getting more into it you know

3279
02:14:30,229 --> 02:14:28,400
we've

3280
02:14:32,310 --> 02:14:30,239
the government's known about this for a

3281
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:32,320
long time how frequency and vibration

3282
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:34,400
work this is what the pledge allegiance

3283
02:14:39,830 --> 02:14:36,400
is for it's to

3284
02:14:41,830 --> 02:14:39,840
uh and i know you did it every day in

3285
02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:41,840
coming up in school i did it every day

3286
02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:44,079
in school that's what led me to go into

3287
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:46,639
the oh backing up a little bit i was a

3288
02:14:51,750 --> 02:14:49,280
cop for three years uh i was a sheriff's

3289
02:14:53,830 --> 02:14:51,760
deputy in georgia i worked narcotics uh

3290
02:14:54,790 --> 02:14:53,840
part time for the the last bit of my

3291
02:14:56,870 --> 02:14:54,800
career

3292
02:14:58,069 --> 02:14:56,880
before i went active duty

3293
02:15:01,669 --> 02:14:58,079
um

3294
02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:01,679
so this call to really serve was really

3295
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:04,719
brainwashed into me at a very early age

3296
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:07,360
so when you're 18 and

3297
02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:09,199
you know you grew up on a farm in

3298
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:11,440
midwest ohio and

3299
02:15:15,109 --> 02:15:13,280
you're looking for and you've been

3300
02:15:16,870 --> 02:15:15,119
saying this over and over

3301
02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:16,880
the you know pledge allegiance to the

3302
02:15:20,470 --> 02:15:18,480
flag united states of america blah blah

3303
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:20,480
blah this is why this tattoo is on my

3304
02:15:24,709 --> 02:15:22,960
arm you know i fell right into the trap

3305
02:15:26,950 --> 02:15:24,719
so as soon as the call to service come

3306
02:15:29,270 --> 02:15:26,960
up i was the first one to raise my hand

3307
02:15:31,669 --> 02:15:29,280
not knowing that my call to service

3308
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:31,679
intention that was deep inside me that

3309
02:15:36,229 --> 02:15:34,159
deep burning to serve was a much deeper

3310
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:36,239
burning which i'm actually i'm actually

3311
02:15:41,189 --> 02:15:39,119
serving my true purpose now but i was

3312
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:41,199
i've misinterpreted it for so long

3313
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:45,360
drew's sleeve on this arm is uh

3314
02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:46,880
the the

3315
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:49,520
the stars and stripes and it's waving

3316
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:51,440
and it's a it's it's actually pretty

3317
02:15:55,990 --> 02:15:53,920
cool man i was wondering what it was

3318
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:56,000
uh but now i know no it's pretty cool

3319
02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:57,840
man there's nothing wrong with that the

3320
02:16:05,750 --> 02:15:58,719
uh

3321
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,760
this is

3322
02:16:10,550 --> 02:16:07,760
you are

3323
02:16:12,470 --> 02:16:10,560
the most un

3324
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:12,480
law enforcement person i could ever talk

3325
02:16:15,750 --> 02:16:14,000
to

3326
02:16:17,669 --> 02:16:15,760
right looking at you now but you're

3327
02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:17,679
saying at one point you were pulling

3328
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:19,199
over cars

3329
02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:21,040
right yeah you were that guy

3330
02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:23,119
i was i was uh i was a second person

3331
02:16:27,030 --> 02:16:25,360
kicking in doors

3332
02:16:29,350 --> 02:16:27,040
looking at you

3333
02:16:32,549 --> 02:16:29,360
it just don't make no sense that's uh

3334
02:16:34,389 --> 02:16:32,559
that's a real transformation okay so but

3335
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,399
but back to intention

3336
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:36,479
this is the thing and you can

3337
02:16:40,309 --> 02:16:37,840
consciously

3338
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:40,319
you know do it with your mind of course

3339
02:16:45,349 --> 02:16:42,479
but when you speak it

3340
02:16:47,429 --> 02:16:45,359
right when you say it you know i've

3341
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:47,439
i i would love to see something or i

3342
02:16:52,629 --> 02:16:50,319
would love and and then bam it happens

3343
02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:52,639
it's it's it's crazy and and when it

3344
02:16:58,309 --> 02:16:54,639
goes down drew and you've gone through

3345
02:17:01,110 --> 02:16:58,319
this experience it's usually

3346
02:17:02,950 --> 02:17:01,120
at the same time somebody says something

3347
02:17:04,549 --> 02:17:02,960
right at times i've seen it happen so

3348
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:04,559
many times and that's just the proof

3349
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:07,200
that this the ceremony is not

3350
02:17:11,509 --> 02:17:08,960
the ayahuasca is not contained to that

3351
02:17:13,509 --> 02:17:11,519
bottle and it's not contained to

3352
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:13,519
the five hours of ceremony that you go

3353
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:15,840
into the ceremony with that it's

3354
02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:19,120
she is everywhere you know the universe

3355
02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:22,080
is everywhere it's it's the source

3356
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:25,120
we're we are source we're you know i go

3357
02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:26,960
back to that the drop of water in the

3358
02:17:30,709 --> 02:17:28,639
ocean that's the best way to describe it

3359
02:17:33,190 --> 02:17:30,719
to get people to really understand and

3360
02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:33,200
you can think of yourself as either one

3361
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:35,280
you can picture yourself as a drop

3362
02:17:39,669 --> 02:17:37,200
and that's okay right or you can you can

3363
02:17:41,750 --> 02:17:39,679
picture yourself as the ocean right and

3364
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:41,760
part of that and then interact with that

3365
02:17:45,750 --> 02:17:43,679
and and that's

3366
02:17:48,230 --> 02:17:45,760
that's really how you can astral travel

3367
02:17:51,270 --> 02:17:48,240
lucid dream telepathy

3368
02:17:54,469 --> 02:17:51,280
uh contact with et all of it the

3369
02:17:56,709 --> 02:17:54,479
consciousness and the understanding that

3370
02:17:59,270 --> 02:17:56,719
you're tapping into one

3371
02:18:01,030 --> 02:17:59,280
that that is that is the real key to all

3372
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:01,040
of it that's the rosetta stone of all of

3373
02:18:05,429 --> 02:18:04,319
it is is consciousness connection

3374
02:18:06,790 --> 02:18:05,439
we were

3375
02:18:09,910 --> 02:18:06,800
um

3376
02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:09,920
the best way i can describe it is what

3377
02:18:15,110 --> 02:18:13,280
we're talking about um very briefly

3378
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:15,120
we're out in the middle of the desert

3379
02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:18,559
and uh we've got like this uh cabin

3380
02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:20,639
situation in the middle of the i'm

3381
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:22,000
talking about

3382
02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:25,120
in the desert okay and we're out on the

3383
02:18:30,790 --> 02:18:28,240
patio there's uh half a dozen of us

3384
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:30,800
and somebody says

3385
02:18:35,509 --> 02:18:33,760
uh would it be cool it's about

3386
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:35,519
i'm gonna say i'm gonna say it's 11

3387
02:18:38,629 --> 02:18:37,280
o'clock at night right

3388
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:38,639
black

3389
02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:40,559
it's it's in the middle of the somebody

3390
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:44,719
says wouldn't it be cool if we saw a ufo

3391
02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:47,920
at that moment and and so

3392
02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:50,399
somebody says it to my left

3393
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:53,439
and and i happen to be and some of us

3394
02:18:57,589 --> 02:18:56,000
are already and i'm looking out over the

3395
02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:57,599
desert

3396
02:19:02,870 --> 02:19:00,000
at that moment right wouldn't it be cool

3397
02:19:04,629 --> 02:19:02,880
if if if we could see ufo at that moment

3398
02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:04,639
in the middle of the desert

3399
02:19:10,150 --> 02:19:08,479
probably a quarter of a mile away close

3400
02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:10,160
this white

3401
02:19:14,469 --> 02:19:11,679
orb

3402
02:19:17,669 --> 02:19:14,479
shoots out of the floor of the desert

3403
02:19:22,309 --> 02:19:21,030
straight up into the stars it lasted for

3404
02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:22,319
about

3405
02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:24,000
two seconds

3406
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:27,439
right and we all saw it and we all freak

3407
02:19:31,990 --> 02:19:30,240
and we're just like no

3408
02:19:33,589 --> 02:19:32,000
way

3409
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:33,599
it was on cue

3410
02:19:39,910 --> 02:19:37,519
the so the the vibration that you felt

3411
02:19:42,309 --> 02:19:39,920
emanating from the center of your core

3412
02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:42,319
when that happens

3413
02:19:44,629 --> 02:19:43,840
man like

3414
02:19:48,150 --> 02:19:44,639
i've

3415
02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:48,160
so contacted a desert i i in 2019 i went

3416
02:19:52,469 --> 02:19:50,319
there to make contact like this is when

3417
02:19:53,830 --> 02:19:52,479
i was first starting to come out of all

3418
02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:53,840
the you know with all this stuff and

3419
02:19:58,389 --> 02:19:56,640
everything by the way i'm self-published

3420
02:20:00,630 --> 02:19:58,399
self-promoted like all this stuff has

3421
02:20:02,469 --> 02:20:00,640
been me over the years just just getting

3422
02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:02,479
it out there so um

3423
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:04,080
it's been a struggle

3424
02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:07,680
a lot of ridicule um but um anyways i

3425
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:08,560
was at

3426
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:11,840
contacting 2019 to make contact

3427
02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:13,920
uh with people you know and just trying

3428
02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:15,520
to get my name out there

3429
02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:17,760
me and the wife stayed there uh with the

3430
02:20:23,349 --> 02:20:20,399
bmv out in desert by joshua tree and we

3431
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:23,359
were overlooking where uh

3432
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:25,920
where uh indian wells were the where it

3433
02:20:29,349 --> 02:20:27,600
was being held the hotel it was being

3434
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:29,359
held at that that year

3435
02:20:34,150 --> 02:20:32,880
about 25 minutes away from indian wells

3436
02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:34,160
and um

3437
02:20:37,510 --> 02:20:35,600
i was like i bet we're going to see a

3438
02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:37,520
ship out here tonight there because uh

3439
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:41,120
emery was doing a c5 at contact that

3440
02:20:45,110 --> 02:20:42,000
night

3441
02:20:47,030 --> 02:20:45,120
i remember i remember yes

3442
02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:47,040
we're setting there and all of a sudden

3443
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:48,880
like the wind's blowing you know we're

3444
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:50,319
we're out in the middle in joshua tree

3445
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,760
the wind's blowing back and forth you

3446
02:20:55,590 --> 02:20:53,200
can hear like the wind blowing all of a

3447
02:20:57,590 --> 02:20:55,600
sudden it just becomes super silent

3448
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:57,600
and you hear this whoosh go over top of

3449
02:21:01,190 --> 02:20:58,720
us

3450
02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:01,200
and we look up and we can't see it at

3451
02:21:05,910 --> 02:21:02,960
the moment but once it gets over indian

3452
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:05,920
wells you can see a line of lights like

3453
02:21:09,910 --> 02:21:07,840
maybe 10 miles long

3454
02:21:11,429 --> 02:21:09,920
and then you see these drones cut like

3455
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:11,439
these other ships coming out of the

3456
02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:12,880
bottom of it

3457
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,680
and

3458
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:15,600
that was by far the biggest ship i've

3459
02:21:21,830 --> 02:21:18,319
ever seen in my life man like so you saw

3460
02:21:24,830 --> 02:21:21,840
that i've talked to a few other people

3461
02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:24,840
uh that were there that night in indian

3462
02:21:29,590 --> 02:21:27,040
wells um

3463
02:21:31,270 --> 02:21:29,600
that told me about that sighting i

3464
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:31,280
didn't see it

3465
02:21:36,950 --> 02:21:35,120
huge yeah that particular night um uh a

3466
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:36,960
couple of people that were outside and

3467
02:21:40,790 --> 02:21:37,840
saw it

3468
02:21:43,349 --> 02:21:40,800
said that they saw me

3469
02:21:44,870 --> 02:21:43,359
inside of the lobby right sitting with

3470
02:21:46,550 --> 02:21:44,880
some people that you know they could see

3471
02:21:48,309 --> 02:21:46,560
me inside

3472
02:21:51,190 --> 02:21:48,319
and they were out there going church

3473
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:51,200
needs to be out here everybody inside

3474
02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:53,280
right everybody inside needs to be out

3475
02:21:59,349 --> 02:21:56,640
here because of what was happening out

3476
02:22:01,030 --> 02:21:59,359
above the hotel i missed the entire

3477
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:01,040
thing but you saw it

3478
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:03,520
it was amazing i got to see it

3479
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:05,280
i got to see it from away i got to see

3480
02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:07,600
the the size of the ship

3481
02:22:13,270 --> 02:22:09,760
and i got to see this i got to see small

3482
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:15,349
as far as ship sightings that was

3483
02:22:19,510 --> 02:22:16,720
probably one of the most profound ones

3484
02:22:21,190 --> 02:22:19,520
i've ever encountered wow i've had

3485
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:21,200
by chaco canyon i've had i had

3486
02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:23,120
face-to-face contact

3487
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:25,600
um and that's really where

3488
02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:27,200
my understanding of consciousness come

3489
02:22:31,190 --> 02:22:29,200
from was that face-to-face contact okay

3490
02:22:33,590 --> 02:22:31,200
so let's uh let's talk about that now

3491
02:22:35,830 --> 02:22:33,600
and and chaco canyon there's a lot of

3492
02:22:37,990 --> 02:22:35,840
sacred places in the united states but

3493
02:22:41,349 --> 02:22:38,000
chaco canyon is

3494
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:41,359
is that's world-class level uh

3495
02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:43,280
as far as sacred goes and it's right

3496
02:22:48,389 --> 02:22:45,439
here in north america oh my god it's so

3497
02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:48,399
amazing yeah so what happened

3498
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:51,280
so um let's see

3499
02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:53,040
is my wife's me and my wife's

3500
02:22:59,429 --> 02:22:57,520
anniversary i think 2018

3501
02:23:01,510 --> 02:22:59,439
yeah 2018.

3502
02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:01,520
we went to chaco canyon

3503
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:04,880
uh to explore um for it we got a we had

3504
02:23:09,349 --> 02:23:07,280
a bnb in cortez colorado which is about

3505
02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:09,359
an hour and a half away from two hours

3506
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:11,520
away from choco there's nothing out

3507
02:23:15,349 --> 02:23:13,200
there like you drive out to chaco and

3508
02:23:17,429 --> 02:23:15,359
you've got a car camp or got a tent like

3509
02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:17,439
there's nothing out there

3510
02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:18,880
uh really

3511
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:20,720
really messed up roads going out there

3512
02:23:24,710 --> 02:23:21,920
but um

3513
02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:24,720
this is after i'd already um

3514
02:23:28,630 --> 02:23:26,800
had to experience several experiences

3515
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:28,640
ayahuasca and i've already started

3516
02:23:31,349 --> 02:23:29,920
sundancing

3517
02:23:35,590 --> 02:23:31,359
and

3518
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:35,600
of native spirits so i had my drum out

3519
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:38,240
there we we hiked around choco around

3520
02:23:41,349 --> 02:23:39,600
the kivas

3521
02:23:43,110 --> 02:23:41,359
looked at the uh petroglyphs and

3522
02:23:44,389 --> 02:23:43,120
everything and really interested a lot

3523
02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:44,399
of

3524
02:23:48,950 --> 02:23:46,080
the petroglyphs you know had the the

3525
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:48,960
fibroche sequence to swirl on it um

3526
02:23:53,670 --> 02:23:51,760
there are beings uh there with three a

3527
02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:53,680
lot of the a lot of pictures there with

3528
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:55,439
beings with three fingers and all kinds

3529
02:24:00,309 --> 02:23:56,560
of stuff

3530
02:24:03,110 --> 02:24:00,319
can get a lot of um

3531
02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:03,120
like quips of flutes being played and

3532
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:05,760
and hearing songs like in the wind

3533
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:06,880
out there

3534
02:24:10,790 --> 02:24:09,280
and um my wife took a couple pictures of

3535
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:10,800
me and different places of the kiva and

3536
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:12,160
i took a couple pictures of her and

3537
02:24:15,830 --> 02:24:14,479
almost every picture there's orbs

3538
02:24:17,270 --> 02:24:15,840
moving around

3539
02:24:19,030 --> 02:24:17,280
and um

3540
02:24:20,790 --> 02:24:19,040
didn't see that till afterwards but i

3541
02:24:23,110 --> 02:24:20,800
found a piece of pottery there by one of

3542
02:24:25,429 --> 02:24:23,120
the one of the kivas don't don't tell

3543
02:24:28,469 --> 02:24:25,439
anybody i kept it but

3544
02:24:29,990 --> 02:24:28,479
found a small piece of pottery but um

3545
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:30,000
um

3546
02:24:34,469 --> 02:24:32,399
that night well i sung a sung a few

3547
02:24:36,389 --> 02:24:34,479
prayer songs in lakota there before we

3548
02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:36,399
left and just given

3549
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:38,080
thanks to what i experienced there and

3550
02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:39,920
what i felt there i felt a really strong

3551
02:24:43,750 --> 02:24:42,160
presence there very very strong star

3552
02:24:44,870 --> 02:24:43,760
people presence there

3553
02:24:47,590 --> 02:24:44,880
that night

3554
02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:47,600
we went back had dinner um

3555
02:24:52,070 --> 02:24:49,280
on the way back to cortez went back to

3556
02:24:53,670 --> 02:24:52,080
the bnb and uh went to sleep that night

3557
02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:53,680
and woke i woke up about two three

3558
02:24:57,190 --> 02:24:55,760
o'clock in the morning

3559
02:24:58,230 --> 02:24:57,200
ears ringing

3560
02:25:00,309 --> 02:24:58,240
um

3561
02:25:02,630 --> 02:25:00,319
just kind of nauseous and my ears just

3562
02:25:03,990 --> 02:25:02,640
really ringing and the ringing was going

3563
02:25:06,389 --> 02:25:04,000
back and forth

3564
02:25:08,469 --> 02:25:06,399
and um

3565
02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:08,479
i knew something wasn't by that time i

3566
02:25:13,030 --> 02:25:10,880
i've been able i started recognizing

3567
02:25:15,190 --> 02:25:13,040
that was something to cue me in that

3568
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:15,200
there was something more in the area

3569
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:16,560
there was something a higher vibration

3570
02:25:19,190 --> 02:25:18,000
in the area

3571
02:25:20,790 --> 02:25:19,200
didn't know what it was and really

3572
02:25:22,790 --> 02:25:20,800
didn't

3573
02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:22,800
really wasn't interested in finding out

3574
02:25:25,429 --> 02:25:24,160
at that point i just want to go back to

3575
02:25:28,309 --> 02:25:25,439
bed

3576
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:28,319
use the restroom um went outside has had

3577
02:25:33,110 --> 02:25:30,319
a few puffs of tobacco on the back deck

3578
02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:33,120
of this bnb and

3579
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:35,359
the back the backyard is just completely

3580
02:25:38,710 --> 02:25:37,120
dark and

3581
02:25:42,070 --> 02:25:38,720
as i'm standing there i just feel this

3582
02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:42,080
vibration like welling up inside me and

3583
02:25:46,710 --> 02:25:44,000
like each breath it just

3584
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:46,720
is more and more like two or three brush

3585
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:49,280
into it i i start almost getting sic so

3586
02:25:53,590 --> 02:25:50,720
i'm vibrating so hard i'm almost getting

3587
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:53,600
sick i lean over to cough and i spit

3588
02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:57,280
and as i spit um beside me i see a pair

3589
02:26:00,950 --> 02:26:00,240
of feet like standing like a foot beside

3590
02:26:05,110 --> 02:26:00,960
me

3591
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:05,120
i follow the legs up and it's just

3592
02:26:09,110 --> 02:26:06,640
looks like a shadow

3593
02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:09,120
and um i follow it up and it's

3594
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:11,280
at first i think it's a shadow

3595
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:12,960
um we live out in the middle of nowhere

3596
02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:14,960
you know we live a half hour from town

3597
02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:16,720
so i'm used to not being around street

3598
02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:17,920
lights so i'm like maybe it's a street

3599
02:26:21,590 --> 02:26:19,359
light i turn around

3600
02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:21,600
there's no street lights around here

3601
02:26:27,349 --> 02:26:24,560
this completely dark i turn back around

3602
02:26:28,389 --> 02:26:27,359
and when i do it starts to open its eyes

3603
02:26:30,309 --> 02:26:28,399
and

3604
02:26:33,750 --> 02:26:30,319
it's the same height as me

3605
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:33,760
legs arms like kind of silhouette

3606
02:26:36,630 --> 02:26:35,840
shadow and it opens its eyes and it's

3607
02:26:37,750 --> 02:26:36,640
just

3608
02:26:40,309 --> 02:26:37,760
stars

3609
02:26:41,830 --> 02:26:40,319
and it's just galaxy on galaxy on galaxy

3610
02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:41,840
in its eyes

3611
02:26:45,670 --> 02:26:43,840
and

3612
02:26:47,510 --> 02:26:45,680
the best way i could describe i kind of

3613
02:26:49,910 --> 02:26:47,520
my consciousness jumped out of myself

3614
02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:49,920
and dove into its eyes and i started

3615
02:26:54,070 --> 02:26:51,680
flying through the universe

3616
02:26:55,110 --> 02:26:54,080
and i started

3617
02:26:58,150 --> 02:26:55,120
uh

3618
02:27:01,349 --> 02:26:58,160
i fir my first question is

3619
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:01,359
what are you and it said i'm you

3620
02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:04,080
and in a different dimensional field and

3621
02:27:07,270 --> 02:27:06,080
i'm here to show you that you're

3622
02:27:09,190 --> 02:27:07,280
operating

3623
02:27:11,750 --> 02:27:09,200
in these other fields and

3624
02:27:15,190 --> 02:27:11,760
um we you need to understand this on

3625
02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:15,200
this level okay stop right there

3626
02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:17,200
you're going into overtime

3627
02:27:20,710 --> 02:27:19,120
there is no way

3628
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:20,720
i'm looking at the clock and this is

3629
02:27:25,270 --> 02:27:23,600
where i go great show tonight drew can't

3630
02:27:29,030 --> 02:27:25,280
wait to have you on again that was

3631
02:27:32,550 --> 02:27:29,040
amazing drew's website is

3632
02:27:37,429 --> 02:27:34,230
the

3633
02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:37,439
break

3634
02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:38,800
but

3635
02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:40,800
was this

3636
02:27:46,309 --> 02:27:44,479
yes

3637
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:46,319
because i felt i felt the cells of my

3638
02:27:50,630 --> 02:27:49,200
body separating no i mean yeah no i i

3639
02:27:53,830 --> 02:27:50,640
get that part no we're going to come

3640
02:27:56,389 --> 02:27:53,840
back to all of that i'm saying the being

3641
02:27:59,030 --> 02:27:56,399
itself

3642
02:28:00,950 --> 02:27:59,040
this was physical

3643
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:00,960
i didn't i didn't grab it jim i didn't

3644
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:03,280
grab it by the way

3645
02:28:07,910 --> 02:28:06,160
it was as real right as real as

3646
02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:07,920
if me and you were actually being in

3647
02:28:13,270 --> 02:28:11,439
person like right right right

3648
02:28:14,870 --> 02:28:13,280
and i immediate i immediately knew it

3649
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:14,880
was something that was

3650
02:28:18,309 --> 02:28:16,720
i mean i i couldn't i couldn't be in the

3651
02:28:20,630 --> 02:28:18,319
presence of it for more in a few seconds

3652
02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:20,640
because literally i felt like my cell i

3653
02:28:23,830 --> 02:28:22,240
felt like my cells were separating and

3654
02:28:25,349 --> 02:28:23,840
about to float out into the universe

3655
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:25,359
that's what i felt stay right there

3656
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:26,880
we're going to take a break uh we're

3657
02:28:30,230 --> 02:28:28,800
doing overtime drew banky isn't going

3658
02:28:32,870 --> 02:28:30,240
anywhere we're going to do all of this

3659
02:28:36,150 --> 02:28:32,880
and continue when we come back

3660
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:36,160
uh and i think everybody knows uh where

3661
02:28:39,349 --> 02:28:38,560
we were going right here drew stay right

3662
02:28:43,030 --> 02:28:39,359
there

3663
02:28:45,110 --> 02:28:43,040
uh overtime is next and don't worry

3664
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:45,120
we're just gonna finish

3665
02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:47,760
this part of the conversation this is

3666
02:28:51,930 --> 02:28:49,600
fade to black i'm yours jimmy church

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3730
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3731
02:32:48,790 --> 02:32:45,190
all right welcome back fade to black

3732
02:32:49,990 --> 02:32:48,800
over time through banking

3733
02:32:51,190 --> 02:32:50,000
yeah man

3734
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:51,200
what a great show what a great

3735
02:32:55,190 --> 02:32:52,640
conversation

3736
02:32:57,110 --> 02:32:55,200
and uh you know what this is like uh for

3737
02:32:58,790 --> 02:32:57,120
me drew you know back in the day uh

3738
02:33:00,950 --> 02:32:58,800
you're not old enough to remember johnny

3739
02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:00,960
carson but um

3740
02:33:05,910 --> 02:33:03,280
but but johnny would do this

3741
02:33:08,150 --> 02:33:05,920
you know say it was a a first-time

3742
02:33:11,030 --> 02:33:08,160
comedian on the show or sing or whatever

3743
02:33:13,270 --> 02:33:11,040
first time on on carson and they would

3744
02:33:15,990 --> 02:33:13,280
look over after they were done

3745
02:33:18,469 --> 02:33:16,000
and carson would go

3746
02:33:19,270 --> 02:33:18,479
come on over have a seat

3747
02:33:20,710 --> 02:33:19,280
right

3748
02:33:23,990 --> 02:33:20,720
and uh

3749
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:24,000
for a first-time guest to uh to make it

3750
02:33:27,429 --> 02:33:26,240
to overtime on the show that's pretty

3751
02:33:29,670 --> 02:33:27,439
cool man

3752
02:33:32,389 --> 02:33:29,680
so uh that's all right now

3753
02:33:34,950 --> 02:33:32,399
um and the audience recognizes this okay

3754
02:33:38,150 --> 02:33:34,960
so let's get back to this now this is uh

3755
02:33:39,590 --> 02:33:38,160
okay so if you're just tuning in

3756
02:33:43,510 --> 02:33:39,600
uh

3757
02:33:46,710 --> 02:33:43,520
chaco canyon

3758
02:33:49,990 --> 02:33:46,720
and they go back to

3759
02:33:51,270 --> 02:33:50,000
the abode i is it uh

3760
02:33:52,469 --> 02:33:51,280
uh

3761
02:33:55,510 --> 02:33:52,479
it was a b b

3762
02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:55,520
airbnb uh airbnb and cortez

3763
02:34:00,830 --> 02:33:58,240
and uh so he goes out uh to have a

3764
02:34:03,429 --> 02:34:00,840
little puff puff of some uh

3765
02:34:07,270 --> 02:34:03,439
tobacco and uh i like the way you

3766
02:34:08,950 --> 02:34:07,280
clearly said uh uh it was tobacco um

3767
02:34:10,469 --> 02:34:08,960
if it was marijuana i would tell you too

3768
02:34:11,910 --> 02:34:10,479
it don't matter to me no it doesn't

3769
02:34:13,349 --> 02:34:11,920
matter it doesn't matter it doesn't

3770
02:34:14,469 --> 02:34:13,359
matter it doesn't matter around here

3771
02:34:17,190 --> 02:34:14,479
okay so

3772
02:34:19,750 --> 02:34:17,200
but but uh you look down you see a pair

3773
02:34:26,469 --> 02:34:22,950
uh drew then uh looks up and

3774
02:34:28,389 --> 02:34:26,479
uh and sees that he is next to a being

3775
02:34:29,510 --> 02:34:28,399
that is his height

3776
02:34:31,429 --> 02:34:29,520
um

3777
02:34:32,870 --> 02:34:31,439
uh i want you to describe it a little

3778
02:34:36,950 --> 02:34:32,880
bit more but

3779
02:34:40,550 --> 02:34:36,960
uh the being opens his eyes and he sees

3780
02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:40,560
the universe right stars in in the eyes

3781
02:34:47,190 --> 02:34:42,960
but let's let's actually go back to that

3782
02:34:49,590 --> 02:34:47,200
moment was this being was was this being

3783
02:34:53,030 --> 02:34:49,600
clothed i know you said dark it was

3784
02:34:55,990 --> 02:34:53,040
black was it clothed it was it you know

3785
02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:56,000
it was it was a shadow it was literally

3786
02:34:59,429 --> 02:34:58,000
just a shadow and i was totally

3787
02:35:01,590 --> 02:34:59,439
convinced there was a shadow until it

3788
02:35:04,230 --> 02:35:01,600
opens its eyes right right okay and i

3789
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:04,240
seen the stars so there was

3790
02:35:07,110 --> 02:35:05,920
there was no details like that that i

3791
02:35:10,309 --> 02:35:07,120
saw it was

3792
02:35:12,950 --> 02:35:10,319
literally just a silhouette of me um

3793
02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:12,960
and now i realize um

3794
02:35:17,510 --> 02:35:15,200
you know the universe uses the mirror

3795
02:35:20,070 --> 02:35:17,520
aspect a lot when it teaches lessons and

3796
02:35:22,389 --> 02:35:20,080
this is really what was happening it was

3797
02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:22,399
teaching me multi-dimensionality

3798
02:35:28,389 --> 02:35:26,000
um being bilocated and a multi-located

3799
02:35:31,670 --> 02:35:28,399
at the same time of our consciousness

3800
02:35:35,270 --> 02:35:31,680
there's a famous line um at the end of

3801
02:35:37,670 --> 02:35:35,280
2001 uh a space odyssey

3802
02:35:38,870 --> 02:35:37,680
um

3803
02:35:40,950 --> 02:35:38,880
when

3804
02:35:44,550 --> 02:35:40,960
uh one of the astronauts and there's

3805
02:35:46,710 --> 02:35:44,560
dave bowman looks inside of the monolith

3806
02:35:48,389 --> 02:35:46,720
right the black monolith

3807
02:35:50,790 --> 02:35:48,399
and and uh

3808
02:35:52,309 --> 02:35:50,800
and somebody said what do you see

3809
02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:52,319
right

3810
02:35:59,510 --> 02:35:54,319
stars

3811
02:36:01,910 --> 02:35:59,520
and that always affected me you know

3812
02:36:04,230 --> 02:36:01,920
that inside of this blackness this

3813
02:36:06,309 --> 02:36:04,240
infinite blackness

3814
02:36:08,230 --> 02:36:06,319
all he sees is stars

3815
02:36:10,070 --> 02:36:08,240
and that's what happened to you all you

3816
02:36:11,429 --> 02:36:10,080
see is stars

3817
02:36:13,830 --> 02:36:11,439
what happened

3818
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:13,840
infinite it was just infinite it just

3819
02:36:18,309 --> 02:36:16,800
went on forever um you know i was flying

3820
02:36:19,750 --> 02:36:18,319
through it and

3821
02:36:21,910 --> 02:36:19,760
you know like i said the first question

3822
02:36:24,469 --> 02:36:21,920
was who are you and it's like i'm you

3823
02:36:26,710 --> 02:36:24,479
you know this is this is this is what

3824
02:36:28,550 --> 02:36:26,720
you look like in the future i'm here to

3825
02:36:30,389 --> 02:36:28,560
show you this because you're going to

3826
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:30,399
hel you're going to help usher you're

3827
02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:31,600
going to be the one of the ones that

3828
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:33,200
help usher in this

3829
02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:35,439
shift in humanity

3830
02:36:39,429 --> 02:36:37,600
show me uh humanity's about to be a

3831
02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:39,439
shift um

3832
02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:41,040
in consciousness and vibration we're

3833
02:36:47,190 --> 02:36:43,040
about to go to a different understanding

3834
02:36:48,230 --> 02:36:47,200
of existence now this happened after and

3835
02:36:51,270 --> 02:36:48,240
sorry jimmy

3836
02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:51,280
yeah go ahead well okay uh

3837
02:36:56,630 --> 02:36:54,640
this happened after right i am you

3838
02:36:58,389 --> 02:36:56,640
but you noticed

3839
02:36:59,750 --> 02:36:58,399
in the beginning

3840
02:37:01,030 --> 02:36:59,760
that this

3841
02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:01,040
being

3842
02:37:06,150 --> 02:37:03,359
was your height

3843
02:37:08,070 --> 02:37:06,160
right right yeah so it was you but you

3844
02:37:10,389 --> 02:37:08,080
didn't know it yet

3845
02:37:13,429 --> 02:37:10,399
no i just i thought it was i thought it

3846
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:13,439
was a shadow like from a light like i

3847
02:37:17,670 --> 02:37:15,280
thought a light was behind me and

3848
02:37:19,030 --> 02:37:17,680
casting actual shadow not knowing that

3849
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:19,040
it was a shadow

3850
02:37:22,469 --> 02:37:20,319
of you

3851
02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:22,479
in a lesson for you know in a it was it

3852
02:37:30,550 --> 02:37:29,349
so you uh you've got me all shook up

3853
02:37:31,349 --> 02:37:30,560
um

3854
02:37:34,469 --> 02:37:31,359
you

3855
02:37:37,910 --> 02:37:34,479
uh

3856
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:37,920
you're going through the universe right

3857
02:37:42,070 --> 02:37:39,120
you're you're

3858
02:37:44,150 --> 02:37:42,080
you're now out of body i would it's just

3859
02:37:47,830 --> 02:37:44,160
an out-of-body experience

3860
02:37:49,030 --> 02:37:47,840
yeah clearly yeah and i and it's

3861
02:37:50,230 --> 02:37:49,040
physically

3862
02:37:53,990 --> 02:37:50,240
i can kind of tell what you're going to

3863
02:37:55,670 --> 02:37:54,000
ask next it lasted about three seconds

3864
02:37:57,510 --> 02:37:55,680
uh

3865
02:37:59,670 --> 02:37:57,520
it was the last of the questions

3866
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:59,680
in the physical and that was about all i

3867
02:38:01,910 --> 02:38:01,040
could take

3868
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:01,920
and

3869
02:38:07,750 --> 02:38:04,000
um

3870
02:38:09,429 --> 02:38:07,760
i i feel

3871
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:09,439
i can't i can't say for sure but i

3872
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:12,160
almost feel like i was levitating um

3873
02:38:16,469 --> 02:38:13,439
while this

3874
02:38:18,630 --> 02:38:16,479
uh trance was in place

3875
02:38:20,389 --> 02:38:18,640
and yeah after a few seconds i couldn't

3876
02:38:22,469 --> 02:38:20,399
take it anymore

3877
02:38:24,070 --> 02:38:22,479
went inside turned around shut the door

3878
02:38:26,230 --> 02:38:24,080
and like

3879
02:38:28,389 --> 02:38:26,240
not really in fear but it was more like

3880
02:38:31,190 --> 02:38:28,399
i was really thrown

3881
02:38:32,950 --> 02:38:31,200
i wasn't expecting that at all and a lot

3882
02:38:36,790 --> 02:38:32,960
of my experiences

3883
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:36,800
um have been that way um very unexpected

3884
02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:38,160
and uh

3885
02:38:41,349 --> 02:38:39,600
you know i guess

3886
02:38:43,990 --> 02:38:41,359
i guess if i'm speaking for the universe

3887
02:38:46,710 --> 02:38:44,000
now i'm i guess i need to keep myself

3888
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:46,720
keep entertaining myself so i i always

3889
02:38:51,670 --> 02:38:49,680
keep myself guessing you know now um

3890
02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:51,680
have you

3891
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:54,960
met up with yourself again

3892
02:38:58,710 --> 02:38:57,280
yes and um

3893
02:39:00,870 --> 02:38:58,720
so this is a whole another this whole

3894
02:39:02,070 --> 02:39:00,880
another episode jimmy but uh you whippy

3895
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:02,080
ceremony

3896
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:04,960
um for the listeners look up black elk

3897
02:39:09,910 --> 02:39:07,520
black elk speaks um he's a whippy man

3898
02:39:12,389 --> 02:39:09,920
it's a native ceremony and this goes all

3899
02:39:14,710 --> 02:39:12,399
the way back to neanderthal days

3900
02:39:16,790 --> 02:39:14,720
um i too i've took part in three of

3901
02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:16,800
these ceremonies and it's basically

3902
02:39:19,910 --> 02:39:18,640
opening a portal so

3903
02:39:22,469 --> 02:39:19,920
um

3904
02:39:26,389 --> 02:39:22,479
fifth dimensional beings can manifest in

3905
02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:26,399
in 3d physical form

3906
02:39:32,150 --> 02:39:30,160
and that's where i met bigfoot and um

3907
02:39:33,830 --> 02:39:32,160
we were in a closed room closed doors

3908
02:39:36,870 --> 02:39:33,840
closed windows

3909
02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:36,880
and this being started coming towards me

3910
02:39:42,309 --> 02:39:38,560
i could hear it breathing i could smell

3911
02:39:43,429 --> 02:39:42,319
it and as it got to me um i could see it

3912
02:39:45,910 --> 02:39:43,439
and

3913
02:39:48,550 --> 02:39:45,920
it got in front of me time stopped

3914
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:48,560
and i realized this was another facet of

3915
02:39:51,670 --> 02:39:49,600
myself

3916
02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:51,680
this is this this is in the first book i

3917
02:39:55,590 --> 02:39:54,240
believe i go into more detail about this

3918
02:39:58,230 --> 02:39:55,600
um

3919
02:39:59,590 --> 02:39:58,240
but uh yeah there was a witness to that

3920
02:40:00,469 --> 02:39:59,600
there was a lady sitting beside me that

3921
02:40:02,550 --> 02:40:00,479
saw that

3922
02:40:04,790 --> 02:40:02,560
saw it as well um

3923
02:40:07,349 --> 02:40:04,800
you whippy ceremony is a

3924
02:40:09,830 --> 02:40:07,359
pretty uh intense ceremony it's pretty

3925
02:40:12,150 --> 02:40:09,840
rare to find one it's it's really rare

3926
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:12,160
to find someone that still does it

3927
02:40:16,230 --> 02:40:13,600
uh

3928
02:40:20,790 --> 02:40:16,240
black elk speaks i'm posting it right

3929
02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:20,800
now uh for everybody um

3930
02:40:26,790 --> 02:40:24,240
i love learning and i am

3931
02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:26,800
uh learning something right now

3932
02:40:31,670 --> 02:40:28,960
he's amazing he's amazing he i still

3933
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:31,680
speak to him he still speaks to me now

3934
02:40:39,990 --> 02:40:32,800
uh

3935
02:40:43,349 --> 02:40:40,000
um i i i okay so the book originally

3936
02:40:45,830 --> 02:40:43,359
black elk speaks was written in 1932.

3937
02:40:46,630 --> 02:40:45,840
yeah it's a it's a translation

3938
02:40:49,349 --> 02:40:46,640
right

3939
02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:49,359
uh which carl young uh

3940
02:40:57,590 --> 02:40:51,600
okay so

3941
02:40:59,910 --> 02:40:57,600
take me through that when

3942
02:41:00,870 --> 02:40:59,920
is this something that is

3943
02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:00,880
uh

3944
02:41:10,469 --> 02:41:04,319
a

3945
02:41:12,469 --> 02:41:10,479
uh comes into

3946
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:12,479
your world number one

3947
02:41:16,550 --> 02:41:14,880
and number two yeah

3948
02:41:18,389 --> 02:41:16,560
and number two

3949
02:41:21,110 --> 02:41:18,399
is it uh

3950
02:41:23,990 --> 02:41:21,120
is it controllable

3951
02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:24,000
you know what i mean do you initiate it

3952
02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:28,630
no and yes

3953
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:30,479
no no there's no

3954
02:41:35,110 --> 02:41:32,640
no there's no physical medicine right

3955
02:41:37,269 --> 02:41:35,120
medicine is vibration there's 28

3956
02:41:38,710 --> 02:41:37,279
different songs that are sung right and

3957
02:41:40,389 --> 02:41:38,720
uh some of the

3958
02:41:42,150 --> 02:41:40,399
like some of these songs are not share

3959
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:42,160
you know you can look up lakota songs on

3960
02:41:46,309 --> 02:41:44,640
youtube or soundcloud

3961
02:41:48,630 --> 02:41:46,319
there's a certain set of these songs

3962
02:41:50,710 --> 02:41:48,640
that does never get shared like you

3963
02:41:52,550 --> 02:41:50,720
would never find them on youtube

3964
02:41:54,790 --> 02:41:52,560
and so there's no medicine involved

3965
02:41:56,870 --> 02:41:54,800
other than frequency and vibration

3966
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:56,880
so um

3967
02:42:00,950 --> 02:41:59,040
what was your second question uh

3968
02:42:03,750 --> 02:42:00,960
is it controllable is this something

3969
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:03,760
that you initially it's initiated but uh

3970
02:42:08,389 --> 02:42:04,560
once

3971
02:42:09,990 --> 02:42:08,399
the ceremony has started

3972
02:42:11,910 --> 02:42:10,000
just like any ceremony you figure out

3973
02:42:14,630 --> 02:42:11,920
real quick that you're out of control

3974
02:42:17,030 --> 02:42:14,640
like uh you know the spirits know what's

3975
02:42:18,630 --> 02:42:17,040
best they're they're really there to

3976
02:42:20,870 --> 02:42:18,640
help us and

3977
02:42:22,870 --> 02:42:20,880
uh further us along because they're just

3978
02:42:24,790 --> 02:42:22,880
they're just another facet of ourself

3979
02:42:26,230 --> 02:42:24,800
that has already been through the

3980
02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:26,240
process that we're going through right

3981
02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:27,040
now

3982
02:42:31,910 --> 02:42:29,359
and they're trying to make it as easy as

3983
02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:31,920
honest as possible and that's really

3984
02:42:36,790 --> 02:42:34,000
the basis behind it all

3985
02:42:38,830 --> 02:42:36,800
now uh is this

3986
02:42:43,990 --> 02:42:38,840
um is this

3987
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:44,000
you from the distant future

3988
02:42:48,070 --> 02:42:46,000
am i understanding this correct yes i

3989
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:48,080
would i would i would i would say and i

3990
02:42:52,150 --> 02:42:49,120
would go

3991
02:42:54,150 --> 02:42:52,160
so bigfoot come into this room and like

3992
02:42:56,389 --> 02:42:54,160
i said he come into this room there was

3993
02:42:57,190 --> 02:42:56,399
doors were locked

3994
02:42:58,950 --> 02:42:57,200
uh

3995
02:43:00,870 --> 02:42:58,960
sheets over the doors

3996
02:43:03,830 --> 02:43:00,880
you know windows locked sheets over the

3997
02:43:06,550 --> 02:43:03,840
windows totally completely shut room

3998
02:43:08,309 --> 02:43:06,560
uh pitch dark in the room and this being

3999
02:43:09,910 --> 02:43:08,319
appeared and

4000
02:43:12,389 --> 02:43:09,920
um

4001
02:43:13,990 --> 02:43:12,399
left the room without using a door

4002
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:14,000
um there's tons of other stuff that

4003
02:43:17,750 --> 02:43:16,240
happened in that ceremony like a

4004
02:43:19,670 --> 02:43:17,760
lightning storm started happening it

4005
02:43:21,269 --> 02:43:19,680
started raining inside the room

4006
02:43:24,389 --> 02:43:21,279
lightning started striking inside the

4007
02:43:25,830 --> 02:43:24,399
room um

4008
02:43:31,269 --> 02:43:25,840
no drugs

4009
02:43:34,309 --> 02:43:31,279
you know okay i i'm making light of this

4010
02:43:35,990 --> 02:43:34,319
but somebody that is listening to this

4011
02:43:36,870 --> 02:43:36,000
without understanding where we're coming

4012
02:43:38,870 --> 02:43:36,880
from

4013
02:43:40,550 --> 02:43:38,880
is going to say

4014
02:43:42,550 --> 02:43:40,560
drew was high

4015
02:43:47,110 --> 02:43:42,560
right okay there was 50 other people in

4016
02:43:50,070 --> 02:43:47,120
the room right right raining in the room

4017
02:43:51,670 --> 02:43:50,080
what's that raining in the room raining

4018
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:51,680
in the room yeah but there was no water

4019
02:43:54,469 --> 02:43:53,359
on the ground so you could feel water

4020
02:43:56,469 --> 02:43:54,479
hitting you

4021
02:43:59,110 --> 02:43:56,479
you could see lightning

4022
02:44:01,670 --> 02:43:59,120
but like when at the end of the ceremony

4023
02:44:02,469 --> 02:44:01,680
there was nothing was wet

4024
02:44:05,990 --> 02:44:02,479
it was

4025
02:44:08,710 --> 02:44:06,000
it's hard to exp like no i get it i i i

4026
02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:08,720
get it it sounds crazy

4027
02:44:13,429 --> 02:44:11,200
but it also sounds fun

4028
02:44:15,349 --> 02:44:13,439
it's it's one of the most intense it's

4029
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:15,359
the only

4030
02:44:20,950 --> 02:44:18,880
whenever

4031
02:44:22,309 --> 02:44:20,960
i think about doing another one it

4032
02:44:24,710 --> 02:44:22,319
stands the hair up on the back of my

4033
02:44:26,469 --> 02:44:24,720
neck because it really shifted my

4034
02:44:29,590 --> 02:44:26,479
understanding of things

4035
02:44:31,830 --> 02:44:29,600
vastly i understand i under

4036
02:44:34,230 --> 02:44:31,840
i understood telepathy in that in that

4037
02:44:36,389 --> 02:44:34,240
ceremony because i was thinking at one

4038
02:44:38,309 --> 02:44:36,399
time beginning of it like

4039
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:38,319
song three or four i'm sitting there i

4040
02:44:41,590 --> 02:44:40,240
have my drawing i'm singing and i'm

4041
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:41,600
starting to sing songs i've never sung

4042
02:44:46,469 --> 02:44:44,160
before and i'm i'm starting to hear a

4043
02:44:48,870 --> 02:44:46,479
different voice singing them like a lot

4044
02:44:50,389 --> 02:44:48,880
of weird stuff going on but um

4045
02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:50,399
all sudden i started thinking i started

4046
02:44:55,190 --> 02:44:52,800
sweating i'm like man it's hot in here

4047
02:44:56,389 --> 02:44:55,200
all of a sudden the room the walls in

4048
02:44:58,469 --> 02:44:56,399
the room

4049
02:45:00,790 --> 02:44:58,479
the spirits the spirits or whatever you

4050
02:45:02,950 --> 02:45:00,800
want to call it they dissolved the walls

4051
02:45:04,710 --> 02:45:02,960
and wind was blowing through and we were

4052
02:45:06,550 --> 02:45:04,720
basically setting the whole group was

4053
02:45:08,150 --> 02:45:06,560
sitting in a field

4054
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:08,160
and then we were transported back into

4055
02:45:14,150 --> 02:45:11,760
the room but every thought that i had

4056
02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:14,160
they the spirits proved that they could

4057
02:45:20,150 --> 02:45:16,960
hear what i was thinking now is is

4058
02:45:21,830 --> 02:45:20,160
everybody sharing the same experience

4059
02:45:22,950 --> 02:45:21,840
you know the walls coming down and out

4060
02:45:25,110 --> 02:45:22,960
in the field

4061
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:25,120
check this out this is yeah there's

4062
02:45:28,630 --> 02:45:27,359
there was many that described the same

4063
02:45:30,950 --> 02:45:28,640
experiences

4064
02:45:33,349 --> 02:45:30,960
there was one person out of 50 and

4065
02:45:35,590 --> 02:45:33,359
there's this about 15 people from russia

4066
02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:35,600
this happened in crestone colorado right

4067
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:37,760
and about 15 people come from russia to

4068
02:45:42,230 --> 02:45:40,160
do it uh other people all all over the

4069
02:45:43,990 --> 02:45:42,240
world these ceremonies are extremely

4070
02:45:45,590 --> 02:45:44,000
rare there's only like

4071
02:45:48,309 --> 02:45:45,600
there's only a handful of these people

4072
02:45:50,950 --> 02:45:48,319
that have the right to do this still

4073
02:45:53,269 --> 02:45:50,960
it's very hard on your body um

4074
02:45:54,550 --> 02:45:53,279
to do this ceremony because you're kind

4075
02:45:59,349 --> 02:45:54,560
of

4076
02:46:01,750 --> 02:45:59,359
spirits borrow your life force energy

4077
02:46:03,429 --> 02:46:01,760
the medicine person of this to open up

4078
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:03,439
this portal and that's kind of what goes

4079
02:46:05,190 --> 02:46:04,240
on

4080
02:46:07,349 --> 02:46:05,200
but uh

4081
02:46:08,870 --> 02:46:07,359
for instance one time there was these

4082
02:46:10,710 --> 02:46:08,880
rattles flying around the room and there

4083
02:46:11,910 --> 02:46:10,720
was these sparks flying out like

4084
02:46:14,070 --> 02:46:11,920
lightning

4085
02:46:17,110 --> 02:46:14,080
and uh there was like 20 rattles flying

4086
02:46:19,590 --> 02:46:17,120
around and in my head i'm thinking

4087
02:46:21,590 --> 02:46:19,600
and i'm not speaking about thinking that

4088
02:46:23,510 --> 02:46:21,600
the medicine man has someone that's

4089
02:46:25,030 --> 02:46:23,520
walking these rattles around

4090
02:46:26,070 --> 02:46:25,040
they got like a little flashlight or

4091
02:46:30,309 --> 02:46:26,080
something

4092
02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:30,319
mind is trying to dissect this right

4093
02:46:35,750 --> 02:46:33,279
that it's a trick that it's a trick

4094
02:46:37,349 --> 02:46:35,760
absolutely right right because i i

4095
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:37,359
i mean if it's not real i want to know

4096
02:46:41,510 --> 02:46:39,520
if it's real i want to know either

4097
02:46:43,429 --> 02:46:41,520
either way it's messed up right yeah

4098
02:46:46,389 --> 02:46:43,439
either way it's messed up it's crazy

4099
02:46:47,510 --> 02:46:46,399
[\h__\h] either way yes yes yes yes

4100
02:46:54,790 --> 02:46:47,520
the

4101
02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:54,800
thinking this

4102
02:46:59,590 --> 02:46:57,439
all like 15 20 rattles start flying

4103
02:47:02,469 --> 02:46:59,600
around the room like hummingbirds

4104
02:47:05,110 --> 02:47:02,479
and i'm like okay there's no way that

4105
02:47:06,790 --> 02:47:05,120
someone could in a pitch dark room you

4106
02:47:09,110 --> 02:47:06,800
would have to have half the people here

4107
02:47:11,510 --> 02:47:09,120
would have to be in on it like

4108
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:11,520
and i know that you know there's no way

4109
02:47:14,230 --> 02:47:12,800
that that many people's in on it and

4110
02:47:16,389 --> 02:47:14,240
there's no way that these rattles could

4111
02:47:18,389 --> 02:47:16,399
be flying around that they're flying

4112
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:18,399
around people's heads they're going

4113
02:47:22,630 --> 02:47:20,399
between people going in people's pockets

4114
02:47:24,230 --> 02:47:22,640
coming back out of their pockets

4115
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:24,240
like taking stuff out of people's

4116
02:47:28,950 --> 02:47:25,520
pockets and

4117
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:28,960
uh this one lady she has a 15 blue

4118
02:47:34,469 --> 02:47:31,279
prayer ties so she had like fabric with

4119
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:34,479
uh tobacco in it tied she had 50 of

4120
02:47:38,710 --> 02:47:36,640
those in her pocket as a prayer it's a

4121
02:47:40,469 --> 02:47:38,720
native american thing so she set an

4122
02:47:42,389 --> 02:47:40,479
intention while she was tying these

4123
02:47:43,990 --> 02:47:42,399
prayer ties and put in her pocket asking

4124
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:44,000
for a healing from the ceremony or

4125
02:47:47,349 --> 02:47:45,680
whatever

4126
02:47:52,630 --> 02:47:47,359
those 50

4127
02:47:54,710 --> 02:47:52,640
wife's shoes and this lady was sitting

4128
02:47:56,550 --> 02:47:54,720
on the other side of the room as a 25

4129
02:47:58,389 --> 02:47:56,560
foot room she was sitting on the

4130
02:48:00,710 --> 02:47:58,399
opposite side of the room

4131
02:48:03,190 --> 02:48:00,720
they dissolved out of her pocket and

4132
02:48:06,230 --> 02:48:03,200
wound up inside the toes of my wife's

4133
02:48:08,790 --> 02:48:06,240
moccasins sitting beside me

4134
02:48:09,670 --> 02:48:08,800
now you know this is crazy town right

4135
02:48:12,469 --> 02:48:09,680
okay

4136
02:48:13,269 --> 02:48:12,479
yes i love this i love this so much

4137
02:48:15,670 --> 02:48:13,279
and

4138
02:48:17,910 --> 02:48:15,680
the

4139
02:48:20,630 --> 02:48:17,920
i say this so much but it needs to be

4140
02:48:23,990 --> 02:48:20,640
said right now

4141
02:48:27,030 --> 02:48:24,000
most of the world

4142
02:48:27,990 --> 02:48:27,040
doesn't get it and doesn't care

4143
02:48:29,110 --> 02:48:28,000
right

4144
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:29,120
they

4145
02:48:37,750 --> 02:48:35,920
of of definite

4146
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:37,760
life experience

4147
02:48:41,670 --> 02:48:39,760
of going to work paying the bills coming

4148
02:48:43,990 --> 02:48:41,680
home watching tv eating some dinner

4149
02:48:45,830 --> 02:48:44,000
going to bed taking a shower in the

4150
02:48:47,830 --> 02:48:45,840
morning getting up and doing it all over

4151
02:48:51,190 --> 02:48:47,840
again right

4152
02:48:51,200 --> 02:48:55,910
drew goes like this into my fact

4153
02:48:59,190 --> 02:48:57,910
but but that but that's the reality that

4154
02:49:00,710 --> 02:48:59,200
we are in

4155
02:49:01,510 --> 02:49:00,720
right and

4156
02:49:03,830 --> 02:49:01,520
and

4157
02:49:07,269 --> 02:49:03,840
they don't

4158
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:07,279
recognize life's synchronicities they

4159
02:49:12,870 --> 02:49:08,240
don't

4160
02:49:15,590 --> 02:49:12,880
recognize the universe speaking

4161
02:49:17,990 --> 02:49:15,600
examples being laid out in front of them

4162
02:49:20,230 --> 02:49:18,000
like bread crumbs

4163
02:49:22,070 --> 02:49:20,240
but they choose to ignore it

4164
02:49:23,510 --> 02:49:22,080
and they and they want to live in this

4165
02:49:25,349 --> 02:49:23,520
2d

4166
02:49:26,309 --> 02:49:25,359
uh experience

4167
02:49:28,630 --> 02:49:26,319
and that

4168
02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:28,640
when life is over it's over

4169
02:49:33,750 --> 02:49:30,560
right it's a chemical thing your body

4170
02:49:36,790 --> 02:49:33,760
shuts down and and that's the end of of

4171
02:49:41,750 --> 02:49:36,800
everything and they just don't get it do

4172
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:45,590
right it it isn't isn't that amazing and

4173
02:49:49,510 --> 02:49:47,920
it's it's amazing and i believe i

4174
02:49:52,230 --> 02:49:49,520
believe we're all on the road to figure

4175
02:49:53,590 --> 02:49:52,240
this out you know and

4176
02:50:00,469 --> 02:49:53,600
it's

4177
02:50:02,950 --> 02:50:00,479
freeing you can find true sovereignty if

4178
02:50:04,389 --> 02:50:02,960
you start to understand it and not not

4179
02:50:06,070 --> 02:50:04,399
and you can start

4180
02:50:08,150 --> 02:50:06,080
once you figure out what's really going

4181
02:50:11,190 --> 02:50:08,160
on you can start living life because

4182
02:50:13,429 --> 02:50:11,200
there is no death to to

4183
02:50:16,630 --> 02:50:13,439
to dwell on there is no death there

4184
02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:16,640
isn't you just you just start what i

4185
02:50:21,990 --> 02:50:18,800
and this a whole nother show too when i

4186
02:50:25,670 --> 02:50:22,000
talk about the my near-death experience

4187
02:50:28,550 --> 02:50:25,680
i understood in that moment that

4188
02:50:30,710 --> 02:50:28,560
uh my truck will stop running like i

4189
02:50:32,790 --> 02:50:30,720
just had to buy a new truck my my nissan

4190
02:50:34,469 --> 02:50:32,800
exterior stopped run i had to get a

4191
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:34,479
a silverado

4192
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:35,200
but

4193
02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:38,319
drew that whole time switching trucks

4194
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:40,160
being in the dealership

4195
02:50:44,230 --> 02:50:41,920
the voice and the eyes that you're

4196
02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:44,240
speaking to this consciousness never

4197
02:50:47,349 --> 02:50:45,359
stopped

4198
02:50:48,630 --> 02:50:47,359
i just got in another vehicle

4199
02:50:50,870 --> 02:50:48,640
and that's the biggest thing that i

4200
02:50:55,269 --> 02:50:50,880
learned from my near-death experience

4201
02:51:03,269 --> 02:50:56,710
yeah

4202
02:51:05,830 --> 02:51:03,279
yes yes um it's a it's a call to service

4203
02:51:08,309 --> 02:51:05,840
man and this is this is the service that

4204
02:51:10,230 --> 02:51:08,319
we're a lot of veterans and this is the

4205
02:51:12,389 --> 02:51:10,240
trauma trauma pushes you to this

4206
02:51:14,710 --> 02:51:12,399
depression near death and then also in

4207
02:51:17,030 --> 02:51:14,720
ayahuasca comes in you see the spirits

4208
02:51:19,910 --> 02:51:17,040
and then you find out what that really

4209
02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:19,920
true because i remember when i raised my

4210
02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:21,520
hand and got sworn in as a police

4211
02:51:24,950 --> 02:51:23,120
officer i re i know the feeling i

4212
02:51:26,710 --> 02:51:24,960
remember what the feeling

4213
02:51:28,469 --> 02:51:26,720
in my heart when i raised my hand and

4214
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:28,479
sworn into the military

4215
02:51:33,190 --> 02:51:30,960
that same feeling when the

4216
02:51:35,349 --> 02:51:33,200
the spirit showed me my real mission in

4217
02:51:36,150 --> 02:51:35,359
this world that same feeling come over

4218
02:51:38,070 --> 02:51:36,160
me

4219
02:51:40,950 --> 02:51:38,080
and it was so much more

4220
02:51:43,510 --> 02:51:40,960
it's like oh my god i finally found it

4221
02:51:45,670 --> 02:51:43,520
i am uh

4222
02:51:52,230 --> 02:51:45,680
i went through

4223
02:51:55,110 --> 02:51:52,240
okay i don't i don't practice meditation

4224
02:51:55,830 --> 02:51:55,120
um i don't do that uh i have a fear of

4225
02:51:58,150 --> 02:51:55,840
it

4226
02:52:00,790 --> 02:51:58,160
okay but but that's a whole nother show

4227
02:52:01,990 --> 02:52:00,800
too as well uh which we can do

4228
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:02,000
but

4229
02:52:06,389 --> 02:52:03,520
i go through this

4230
02:52:07,830 --> 02:52:06,399
stupid and i'm gonna say stupid because

4231
02:52:09,910 --> 02:52:07,840
i didn't get it

4232
02:52:12,630 --> 02:52:09,920
i went through this stupid ceremony i'm

4233
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:12,640
in a medicine wheel sacred land and i

4234
02:52:17,590 --> 02:52:15,439
and i do all of the things that that i'm

4235
02:52:20,150 --> 02:52:17,600
told to do and and go through you know

4236
02:52:22,550 --> 02:52:20,160
north south east west and and go in and

4237
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:22,560
turn sideways three times and click your

4238
02:52:26,150 --> 02:52:24,640
heels you know and i go through i go

4239
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:26,160
through the motions and i'm enjoying

4240
02:52:32,630 --> 02:52:28,960
myself i'm not pretending i'm i'm taking

4241
02:52:35,030 --> 02:52:32,640
this very serious but at the end

4242
02:52:37,510 --> 02:52:35,040
i've got some drums

4243
02:52:39,750 --> 02:52:37,520
got some singing balls

4244
02:52:43,750 --> 02:52:39,760
and got some

4245
02:52:45,910 --> 02:52:43,760
native songs that are being sung

4246
02:52:48,469 --> 02:52:45,920
and i'm sitting

4247
02:52:51,030 --> 02:52:48,479
you know and and and i'm with everybody

4248
02:52:52,790 --> 02:52:51,040
and all of a sudden

4249
02:52:54,790 --> 02:52:52,800
i'm gone

4250
02:52:56,790 --> 02:52:54,800
right okay now

4251
02:52:58,469 --> 02:52:56,800
it doesn't matter where i went and i've

4252
02:53:01,190 --> 02:52:58,479
told everybody a million times i'm not

4253
02:53:02,550 --> 02:53:01,200
gonna talk about it i'm not gonna do it

4254
02:53:04,230 --> 02:53:02,560
but

4255
02:53:05,990 --> 02:53:04,240
i went there

4256
02:53:07,670 --> 02:53:06,000
okay

4257
02:53:09,590 --> 02:53:07,680
and

4258
02:53:11,429 --> 02:53:09,600
i don't know how long

4259
02:53:13,349 --> 02:53:11,439
you know i keep asking you well how long

4260
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:13,359
you know how i don't know

4261
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:14,560
um

4262
02:53:17,590 --> 02:53:16,479
and so anyway so i come out of this

4263
02:53:19,990 --> 02:53:17,600
thing

4264
02:53:22,790 --> 02:53:20,000
and and i i think the drums kind of

4265
02:53:24,790 --> 02:53:22,800
stopped or the the singing stopped i'm

4266
02:53:26,950 --> 02:53:24,800
really not sure

4267
02:53:29,190 --> 02:53:26,960
but all of a sudden i looked around i

4268
02:53:31,910 --> 02:53:29,200
didn't know where i was

4269
02:53:34,550 --> 02:53:31,920
um i'm with people that i know that i'm

4270
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:34,560
friends with and i don't recognize them

4271
02:53:38,550 --> 02:53:37,200
and and i didn't dig this

4272
02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:38,560
i didn't dig it

4273
02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:41,680
and i stand up and and and

4274
02:53:46,230 --> 02:53:44,080
and i closed my eyes again and i tried

4275
02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:46,240
to take myself back

4276
02:53:49,110 --> 02:53:48,160
didn't happen

4277
02:53:54,389 --> 02:53:49,120
and

4278
02:53:59,110 --> 02:53:54,399
barely walk

4279
02:54:01,190 --> 02:53:59,120
and i'm just like nobody talk to me

4280
02:54:03,910 --> 02:54:01,200
you know i gotta be by myself for a

4281
02:54:06,950 --> 02:54:03,920
second here took me about 30 minutes

4282
02:54:09,190 --> 02:54:06,960
okay before i was like checked back into

4283
02:54:11,510 --> 02:54:09,200
planet earth

4284
02:54:13,389 --> 02:54:11,520
i didn't dig it drew

4285
02:54:15,590 --> 02:54:13,399
i didn't dig the

4286
02:54:16,790 --> 02:54:15,600
uncontrollable part of that i like to be

4287
02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:16,800
in control

4288
02:54:20,389 --> 02:54:19,439
but what it showed me

4289
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:20,399
is that

4290
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:22,720
this stuff is real

4291
02:54:27,190 --> 02:54:25,200
this is real this thing

4292
02:54:30,150 --> 02:54:27,200
this well it you know i also showed you

4293
02:54:32,309 --> 02:54:30,160
jimmy that everything will be okay easy

4294
02:54:34,469 --> 02:54:32,319
even if you lose control everything's

4295
02:54:38,230 --> 02:54:34,479
gonna be okay and that that that's a

4296
02:54:42,309 --> 02:54:40,550
the lesson learned was bad you need to

4297
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:42,319
know what you're doing

4298
02:54:45,990 --> 02:54:43,840
you need to know

4299
02:54:48,070 --> 02:54:46,000
because nobody it's powerful man yeah

4300
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:48,080
nobody warned me nobody told me there

4301
02:54:51,590 --> 02:54:50,000
wasn't anybody there holding my hands it

4302
02:54:55,990 --> 02:54:51,600
was nobody told me what to expect or

4303
02:54:59,030 --> 02:54:56,000
what and and boom um but uh

4304
02:55:01,269 --> 02:54:59,040
uh here's here's the other thing

4305
02:55:02,950 --> 02:55:01,279
is that um

4306
02:55:05,990 --> 02:55:02,960
i was sober

4307
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:06,000
i was well i'm i'm i'm years sober but

4308
02:55:10,870 --> 02:55:08,080
i'm saying at this point there was no

4309
02:55:12,950 --> 02:55:10,880
influences there was nothing going on

4310
02:55:16,150 --> 02:55:12,960
um i had been at this location for

4311
02:55:19,030 --> 02:55:16,160
probably uh not a week yet but certainly

4312
02:55:21,590 --> 02:55:19,040
a few days there wasn't any bad food or

4313
02:55:24,309 --> 02:55:21,600
bad shellfish or you know what i mean

4314
02:55:25,429 --> 02:55:24,319
there was nothing

4315
02:55:27,590 --> 02:55:25,439
there

4316
02:55:32,150 --> 02:55:27,600
uh externally

4317
02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:32,160
this happened um uh by song i i'm i'm

4318
02:55:36,630 --> 02:55:33,520
convinced of that

4319
02:55:38,630 --> 02:55:36,640
certainly the location but the other day

4320
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:38,640
yeah yeah and the uncontrollable part

4321
02:55:42,710 --> 02:55:39,760
though

4322
02:55:45,830 --> 02:55:42,720
that was and i i i

4323
02:55:47,910 --> 02:55:45,840
you know i'm sure with practice and and

4324
02:55:50,550 --> 02:55:47,920
and and things that this is a place that

4325
02:55:52,950 --> 02:55:50,560
you can go to whenever you want but yeah

4326
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:52,960
i pretty much stay there in a way yeah

4327
02:56:01,030 --> 02:55:53,680
the

4328
02:56:03,269 --> 02:56:01,040
medicine is our heart

4329
02:56:06,070 --> 02:56:03,279
the drum is a scientific fact if you

4330
02:56:07,510 --> 02:56:06,080
make a noise repeatedly if i do this me

4331
02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:07,520
and your heart's going to come in sync

4332
02:56:10,630 --> 02:56:09,040
within two minutes yes that's right

4333
02:56:12,950 --> 02:56:10,640
tapping on the table right right the

4334
02:56:14,870 --> 02:56:12,960
drum does the same thing you think about

4335
02:56:16,950 --> 02:56:14,880
if an intention is the same and there's

4336
02:56:18,950 --> 02:56:16,960
multiple people around that drum

4337
02:56:20,790 --> 02:56:18,960
and you expand that for four days like

4338
02:56:22,550 --> 02:56:20,800
the sun dance right that that's that's

4339
02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:22,560
the real medicine right right is our

4340
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:25,200
heart right right right crazy huh yeah

4341
02:56:29,750 --> 02:56:26,960
like one of those rasta four day

4342
02:56:31,750 --> 02:56:29,760
ceremony drum ceremonies uh but yeah

4343
02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:31,760
because everybody is getting on the same

4344
02:56:35,990 --> 02:56:33,920
vibration the same the sundance is a

4345
02:56:38,550 --> 02:56:36,000
four-day ceremony where i fast from food

4346
02:56:39,910 --> 02:56:38,560
and water for four days right right

4347
02:56:42,389 --> 02:56:39,920
and that's another thing the audience

4348
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:42,399
look up sundance or uh check out my

4349
02:56:47,349 --> 02:56:43,840
books you know i talk about them in

4350
02:56:49,429 --> 02:56:47,359
there and uh now where can everybody uh

4351
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:49,439
uh is everything available over at

4352
02:56:53,510 --> 02:56:52,000
sacredjournieswithin.com

4353
02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:53,520
is this plug time

4354
02:56:56,550 --> 02:56:54,319
because

4355
02:56:58,309 --> 02:56:56,560
well but no you just mentioned the books

4356
02:56:59,429 --> 02:56:58,319
and they were talking about this in the

4357
02:57:00,710 --> 02:56:59,439
chat rooms

4358
02:57:02,309 --> 02:57:00,720
within they can

4359
02:57:05,030 --> 02:57:02,319
they can order them through their i get

4360
02:57:08,230 --> 02:57:05,040
on that way they can get uh autographed

4361
02:57:09,830 --> 02:57:08,240
copy or autograph personally and um each

4362
02:57:11,590 --> 02:57:09,840
one's different i send a different

4363
02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:11,600
message i sign it differently to each

4364
02:57:15,349 --> 02:57:13,120
person it's whatever's coming through at

4365
02:57:18,309 --> 02:57:15,359
the time sure or then go to amazon

4366
02:57:21,429 --> 02:57:18,319
they're both on amazon the first book um

4367
02:57:23,670 --> 02:57:21,439
you can buy it in ebook format for 99

4368
02:57:25,349 --> 02:57:23,680
cents i tried to make it available so

4369
02:57:26,550 --> 02:57:25,359
anybody could get it

4370
02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:26,560
and um

4371
02:57:30,710 --> 02:57:28,560
yeah they're both available on amazon

4372
02:57:32,550 --> 02:57:30,720
though yeah the second one is uh priced

4373
02:57:34,870 --> 02:57:32,560
a little different but uh yeah the first

4374
02:57:36,469 --> 02:57:34,880
one i tried to make it so is available

4375
02:57:38,309 --> 02:57:36,479
for pretty much everybody yeah i was

4376
02:57:40,070 --> 02:57:38,319
watching the chat room what was the name

4377
02:57:41,510 --> 02:57:40,080
of the book drew said it too fast did

4378
02:57:44,230 --> 02:57:41,520
anybody catch it what was the name of

4379
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:44,240
the book but uh both books are available

4380
02:57:47,510 --> 02:57:46,560
over at sacredjournieswithin.com

4381
02:57:49,510 --> 02:57:47,520
right

4382
02:57:53,030 --> 02:57:49,520
yup or amazon

4383
02:57:54,389 --> 02:57:53,040
or amazon and the links uh it's sacred

4384
02:57:58,389 --> 02:57:54,399
journeys within

4385
02:58:00,790 --> 02:57:58,399
um but journeys is ies yes and journeys

4386
02:58:02,870 --> 02:58:00,800
is spelled a certain way

4387
02:58:04,990 --> 02:58:02,880
um so the easy way to do it just click

4388
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:05,000
on the links over at

4389
02:58:09,269 --> 02:58:06,880
jimmychurchradio.com and all the

4390
02:58:12,150 --> 02:58:09,279
information uh i'm gonna call it a

4391
02:58:13,990 --> 02:58:12,160
church uh uh and and what you do is all

4392
02:58:17,110 --> 02:58:14,000
available there

4393
02:58:20,070 --> 02:58:17,120
yeah yeah uh uh information on upcoming

4394
02:58:22,870 --> 02:58:20,080
retreats uh past interviews i've done

4395
02:58:24,389 --> 02:58:22,880
i did two interviews with grant cameron

4396
02:58:26,309 --> 02:58:24,399
about a year and a half ago they're

4397
02:58:28,389 --> 02:58:26,319
really and i go really in depth he was

4398
02:58:31,110 --> 02:58:28,399
really interested about the contact

4399
02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:31,120
modality between et and everything

4400
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:33,520
so there's a page on the website that go

4401
02:58:38,230 --> 02:58:35,920
has all those past interviews

4402
02:58:39,510 --> 02:58:38,240
upcoming uh conferences i'll be speaking

4403
02:58:41,670 --> 02:58:39,520
at and

4404
02:58:44,230 --> 02:58:41,680
yeah you can book upcoming retreats as

4405
02:58:46,389 --> 02:58:44,240
well yeah fantastic conversation man and

4406
02:58:47,590 --> 02:58:46,399
i can't wait uh and you're absolutely

4407
02:58:49,670 --> 02:58:47,600
right

4408
02:58:51,990 --> 02:58:49,680
that's a whole nother show that's a

4409
02:58:54,469 --> 02:58:52,000
whole nother show and we will be doing

4410
02:58:56,790 --> 02:58:54,479
that drew thank you so much my man and

4411
02:58:59,110 --> 02:58:56,800
uh give my best to your wife and

4412
02:59:00,870 --> 02:58:59,120
and just uh enjoy that journey that

4413
02:59:01,910 --> 02:59:00,880
you're on my friend this was a great

4414
02:59:03,590 --> 02:59:01,920
show

4415
02:59:06,309 --> 02:59:03,600
it's just a good blessings out to my

4416
02:59:08,950 --> 02:59:06,319
wife uh she's pregnant we uh we just had

4417
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:08,960
our appointment today 14 weeks in one

4418
02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:09,760
day

4419
02:59:13,830 --> 02:59:11,600
baby's healthy uh we're gonna name him

4420
02:59:16,389 --> 02:59:13,840
hawk

4421
02:59:18,950 --> 02:59:16,399
also i want to give a shout out to uh

4422
02:59:20,870 --> 02:59:18,960
light workers message for humanity

4423
02:59:23,670 --> 02:59:20,880
that's a conference rb at next month in

4424
02:59:24,950 --> 02:59:23,680
new smyrna beach november 19th to 21st

4425
02:59:28,389 --> 02:59:24,960
in florida

4426
02:59:29,990 --> 02:59:28,399
i'll be speaking there having books and

4427
02:59:33,830 --> 02:59:30,000
we are proudly affiliated with the

4428
02:59:33,840 --> 02:59:37,510
and also www.mountainroseherbs.com

4429
02:59:40,710 --> 02:59:38,950
you can if you find something on

4430
02:59:42,469 --> 02:59:40,720
mountainroseherbs.com

4431
02:59:45,030 --> 02:59:42,479
message our website and we'll give you a

4432
02:59:47,269 --> 02:59:45,040
promo code and you and uh the we get all

4433
02:59:49,269 --> 02:59:47,279
part of the proceeds goes back to uh

4434
02:59:51,269 --> 02:59:49,279
sacred journeys within so those are a

4435
02:59:52,710 --> 02:59:51,279
few companies we're affiliated with and

4436
02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:52,720
um

4437
02:59:56,870 --> 02:59:54,160
yeah that's about it i'm on facebook

4438
02:59:58,710 --> 02:59:56,880
instagram twitter tick tock youtube

4439
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and if you want to know more about some

4440
03:00:05,830 --> 03:00:02,240
of my cases mufon case number reference

4441
03:00:08,150 --> 03:00:05,840
105 233 uh jeremy ray was one of the

4442
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investigators and you can look more into

4443
03:00:14,790 --> 03:00:11,680
some of my cases that um i've had um

4444
03:00:17,190 --> 03:00:14,800
experiences with so yeah jeremy ray that

4445
03:00:18,469 --> 03:00:17,200
that's a guy in need of ayahuasca right

4446
03:00:20,230 --> 03:00:18,479
there yeah

4447
03:00:22,790 --> 03:00:20,240
he's one of the coolest people on this

4448
03:00:24,070 --> 03:00:22,800
planet man i love that guy so much and i

4449
03:00:26,070 --> 03:00:24,080
just spent a lot of time with brad

4450
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harris too he's uh

4451
03:00:29,910 --> 03:00:28,080
and gigi over at shift happens those

4452
03:00:33,190 --> 03:00:29,920
guys those guys love me they're trying

4453
03:00:34,950 --> 03:00:33,200
to they're trying to get me to cle um

4454
03:00:36,550 --> 03:00:34,960
so yeah um

4455
03:00:37,990 --> 03:00:36,560
shout out to those guys for the support

4456
03:00:39,590 --> 03:00:38,000
ever since uh being on their show

4457
03:00:41,510 --> 03:00:39,600
they're awesome yeah and thank you thank

4458
03:00:43,190 --> 03:00:41,520
you jimmy yeah thank you thank you

4459
03:00:45,429 --> 03:00:43,200
trying to get do this breakthrough for a

4460
03:00:46,710 --> 03:00:45,439
long time and finally i'm glad that we

4461
03:00:48,710 --> 03:00:46,720
had this conversation i knew it was

4462
03:00:51,670 --> 03:00:48,720
going to be amazing so you're the very

4463
03:00:53,830 --> 03:00:51,680
best if you need anything reach out uh

4464
03:00:55,030 --> 03:00:53,840
hit twitter tonight with all of those

4465
03:00:57,990 --> 03:00:55,040
websites

4466
03:01:00,070 --> 03:00:58,000
and i'll do a retweet uh here shortly

4467
03:01:02,710 --> 03:01:00,080
all right drew thank you so much man

4468
03:01:05,030 --> 03:01:02,720
what a great show it was a perfect show

4469
03:01:07,030 --> 03:01:05,040
i was hoping for it i got it and so did

4470
03:01:09,380 --> 03:01:07,040
the rest of the audience enjoy the rest

4471
03:01:11,910 --> 03:01:09,390
of your night and congratulations

4472
03:01:12,870 --> 03:01:11,920
[Music]

4473
03:01:15,510 --> 03:01:12,880
hawk

4474
03:01:17,750 --> 03:01:15,520
i love it i love it take it easy drew

4475
03:01:20,469 --> 03:01:17,760
thank you so much my man

4476
03:01:21,870 --> 03:01:20,479
what a great show tonight drew banke

4477
03:01:23,910 --> 03:01:21,880
again

4478
03:01:25,790 --> 03:01:23,920
sacredjournieswithin.com the links are

4479
03:01:27,590 --> 03:01:25,800
over at

4480
03:01:29,349 --> 03:01:27,600
jimmychurchradio.com fade to black is

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03:01:31,510 --> 03:01:29,359
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4482
03:01:33,510 --> 03:01:31,520
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4483
03:01:36,230 --> 03:01:33,520
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4484
03:01:39,349 --> 03:01:36,240
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4485
03:01:41,429 --> 03:01:39,359
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4486
03:01:43,590 --> 03:01:41,439
faded black is produced by kjcr for the

4487
03:01:46,389 --> 03:01:43,600
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03:01:48,550 --> 03:01:46,399
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03:01:50,630 --> 03:01:48,560
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4490
03:01:52,469 --> 03:01:50,640
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4491
03:01:54,070 --> 03:01:52,479
or used anywhere in the known universe

4492
03:01:55,429 --> 03:01:54,080
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03:01:57,429 --> 03:01:55,439
black of the game changer network i'm

4494
03:02:00,830 --> 03:01:57,439
here with jimmy church tomorrow night

4495
03:02:03,590 --> 03:02:00,840
right here grant cameron show number

4496
03:02:06,230 --> 03:02:03,600
1500 until tomorrow night i want

4497
03:02:07,640 --> 03:02:06,240
everybody to be safe it's time to fade

4498
03:02:23,030 --> 03:02:07,650
to black

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so